Vancouver Mayor Ken Sim is defending his decision to convert a city hall boardroom into a personal gym. Meanwhile, the first debate between U.S. presidential challengers Joe Biden and Donald Trump is taking place tonight. Political image is at the forefront in both stories, so we're discussing whether too much attention is being paid to personality in modern politics with our guest Gerald Baier, associate professor of political science at U.B. C. then, Grant Lawrence from CBC Music joins us in our second half to preview this summer's music festivals in B.C. and our audience calls in with suggestions.