In this last episode of the By The People mini-series, host Ian Millhiser talks with legal scholar Pam Karlan about how the Supreme Court has harmed our democracy in the recent past, and what it's likely to do to voting rights in the future. Then he speaks with Supreme Court journalist Mark Joseph Stern about court-packing and other possible ways to reform the Court. Featuring: Pam Karlan, Professor of Public Interest Law at Stanford Law School  Mark Joseph Stern, Staff Writer at Slate Host: Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser), Senior Correspondent, Vox Credits: Producer/Editor: Jackson Bierfeldt Editor: Elbert Ventura Executive Producer: Liz Nelson About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Please consider making a contribution to Vox to support this show: bit.ly/givepodcasts. Your support will help us keep having ambitious conversations about big ideas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices