During December we are republishing a few of our most popular episodes. This week it's Jennifer Wilde & Dan McClure talking about Systems innovation. It was first broadcast on 26th Jan 2022 as episode 59. Jen and Dan explain how to reimagine systems when addressing big challenges, such as organisational change or the aftermath of a humanitarian disaster. They explain how to avoid overwhelm, why pictures or drawings can help bring clarity, and the four keys that can help people understand system innovation. Jennifer (Jen) Wilde draws on over 15 years of hands-on experience as a senior manager in humanitarian response. She has developed strategies for fostering innovation during emergency response, in challenging, volatile contexts. Jen is Managing Director at Innovation Ecosystem, an organisation that offers practical tools and support to deliver a step change in innovation effectiveness. She met her business partner, Dan McClure, when she was invited by the UN to speak at University of California (UC) Berkeley about the innovation lab that she set up in the middle of the earthquake response in Nepal. Dan McClure is a specialist in disruption. Throughout his 40-year career, he has been a choreographer of ambitious messy change, reimagining complex systems in business, government, international aid, and society. His work spans multiple sectors and engages leaders in both sprawling global firms and fast-moving start-ups. Dan is a thought leader that has helped pioneer practical approaches to system innovation, drawing on insights from a wide variety of past roles such as the global innovation lead at the international consultancy ThoughtWorks, and the Chair of the Advisory Board for the UK based Humanitarian Innovation Fund. Find out more about Jennifer Wilde and Dan McClure at Innovation Ecosystem: Website: https://www.innovationecosystem.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovation-ecosystem Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Innovation-Ecosystem-110228147543789/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/inno_ecosystem This series is kindly supported by Squadcast –the remote recording platform which empowers podcasters by capturing high-quality audio and video conversations. Find out more at squadcast.fm Read the transcription for this episode on www.accesstoinspiration.org and connect with us: Twitter : Facebook : Instagram : LinkedIn Sign up for our newsletter Read our Impact Report Sound Editor: Matias de Ezcurra (he/him) Producer: Sue Stockdale (she/her)