Hi, readers. We hope you’re doing well and are staying safe. We recorded this chat shortly after the protests began, but due to continuing health issues in Dani’s family, it just now got published.

The delay doesn’t matter, though, because the topic we discuss will never go stale: the importance of Black lives, Black joy, Black stories and Black survival.

We also talk about wtf is up with Just Kidding Rowling, how we’re too old for social media and what’s gonna happen when the ‘rona pops back up.

This episode was made possible with the help of Mocha Girls Read and The Black Cabinet: The Untold Story of African Americans and Politics During the Age of Roosevelt by Jill Watts.

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