Analysis with Dani Belo, Assistant Professor of International Relations with Webster University in St. Louis, Missouri and Fellow at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs; and Ukrainian Canadian artist Ivanka Galadza who illustrated the graphic novel Five Stalks of Grain about the Holodomor. Her book comes out in November 2022. During the interview with Ms. Galadza, the host and guest overestimated the deaths in the Holodomor. No exact figure is known. But the Encyclopedia Britannica says at least 5 million people died of starvation.