Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease doctor at UCSF, says that some of the current shutdown rules are so strict that people have stopped paying attention to them. She says schools and outdoor dining can operate safely with proper precautions, and that the Bay Area is so focused on COVID-19 that it’s ignoring other public health disasters, like overdose deaths, depression and loss of learning for kids. | Unlimited Chronicle access: sfchronicle.com/pod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices