Sami and Aleen are joined this week by a very special guest, Sami’s mom Ilene Fishbein. They start the show with a question about Ilene’s relationship with her own mom growing up, and how that influenced her relationship with food. She tells us about the first time she put herself on a diet, and describes her yo-yo dieting habits ever since. Plus, she explains how diet culture has evolved over the years and shares some of the things that were popular when she was younger. They discuss having a real addiction to sugar and the shift away from blaming fatty foods for all our problems. Next, they talk about Sami’s childhood and answer a series of listener questions, including one about what her mom would do over again if she could. An emailer writes in to ask if there’s anything that actually works for flattening your stomach, which leads to a conversation about therapy over fitness. Then they close out the show with an amazing audience Non Scale Win and a few inspiring wins of their own.