Sam sits down with Alex Epstein to discuss the potential impact of Bitcoin mining on the energy industry more broadly, explore the crumbling ESG narrative, and break down the common argument that "Bitcoin is bad for the environment."

Connect with:Sam Callahan: https://twitter.com/samcallahAlex Epstein: https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein

Timestamps:00:00:00 “Swan Signal” Intro00:01:27 Introducing “Alex Epstein”00:02:24 Shifting Away from ESG00:05:16 What is “ESG”00:08:14 Learning from the Eureopean Energy Crisis00:11:40 “Solutions Are Hard”00:13:36 Underinvestment in Fossil Fuels00:18:26 Benefits of Nuclear Energy00:24:38 Responding to, “Bitcoin is Bad for the Environment”00:32:40 “Bitcoin is the Most ESG Asset”00:36:09 The Intersection of the Energy Sector and Bitcoin Mining00:40:49 Grid-Stability, “Green Movement,” and the future of Energy Stabilization00:49:06 How Bitcoin Mining Will Help Grid Stability00:55:24 Alex’s Thoughts on Bitcoin as an Investment00:59:45 How to Connect with “Alex Epstein”01:01:28 “Swan Signal” Outro

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