In this episode Robert A.F. Thurman is joined by Machiel Klerk, social entrepreneur, licensed mental health therapist, international speaker, dream worker, author, and founder of the Jung Platform, an organization focused on providing quality programs for personal development from a soul-centered perspective.

Using Machiel Klerk’s book Dream Guidance: Connecting to the Soul Through Dream Incubation, published by Hay House as a jumping off point, Machiel and Thurman in this episode engage in a discussion of lucid dreaming, dream yoga and how one from any faith, religion or background can explore one’s creativity and transform one’s relationship to their subconscious and to the world around them through mindfulness and compassion. Machiel's recent book emerges as a must-read to pursue these amazing experiences and skills for one's own spiritual growth.

Podcast includes an exploration of the Buddhist concept of the soul, emptiness and the nihilistic materialism driving the climate crisis.