Sarah Edmundson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames are survivors of the NXIVM cult and hosts of the A Little Bit Culty Podcast. They are the married couple and whistleblowers documented in the critically-acclaimed HBO series “The Vow,” Sarah and Nippy have a lot to say about their experience, and burning questions to ask people with similar stories. They’re here to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive situations one little red flag at a time. Sarah and Nippy are also both successful actors and producers. In 2019, Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life. In this moving and insightful conversation Sarah and Nippy look back at their intensely dramatic time as a part of NXIVM, exploring the missteps and courageous actions they took along the way. The couple share with Rachel the uniquely complex relationship dynamics they experienced while in the group and the powerful love and devotion that kept them together. They explain how their relationship offered them the strength needed to leave and ultimately put an end to NXIVM and Keith Ranerie's destructive abuses. Before You Go: Rachel explores NXIVM's idea of inner deficiency, comparing the problematic diagnostic techniques found in some therapeutic practices to the manipulative narratives used by cult leaders. For more info on Sarah and Nippy's podcast visit: https://www.alittlebitculty.com/ Find more about Sarah's book here: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/ You can listen to our previous episodes on NXIVM here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sets/nxivm Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Jamie Gunning, Brett Jellen, Gabrielle Coleman, Danielle Hirokane, Jena Higdon, Rebecca Sigel, Cecilia, The New Inquiry, Kymberley Alberts Sauer, Kristen King, Elizabeth Wolfington, Ryan Pence, Amanda Smith, Julia Colmenero-Skeaff, Niamh McGee, Jo A Gardner and, Amber Berger To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!