Andy calls up Dr. Céline Gounder, who just wrapped up a two-week rotation at Bellevue Hospital in New York City. They discuss her current COVID patient load compared to a year ago, the city's new vaccine requirements, and her honest assessment of the Biden administration's COVID record. Plus, why trust is so important when we ask people to do things like getting vaccinated for the common good.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Learn more about Céline on her website: https://www.celinegounder.com/
• Read more about the Key to NYC program: 19-vaccines-keytonyc.page">https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-vaccines-keytonyc.page
• Here’s the latest about the altercation at a NYC restaurant: vaccination-fight.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/nyregion/carmines-vaccination-fight.html
• Read more about how the vaccine mandate for employers with more than 100 workers is working: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-business-new-york-health-831b555fad96822e1a6840286d73c78e
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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