Desperate and depressed with the feeling of being overwhelmed is way too real for a lot of us. This is a case when the worst that can happen, does. Listen to Cam and Jen discuss the events that lead to Mary Ann Holder's breaking point.If you have feelings of wanting to hurt yourself or others please call the Suicide HotlineIn the United States call 1-800-273-8255For all other countries, here is a link to a list of numbers International Suicide Hotlines by Country on Suicide.org suicide-hotlines.html">http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.htmlThis episode was researched and written by E.J. HammonE.J. Hammon is a North Carolina writer who is fascinated with serial crime and the psychology behind it. With over a decade of experience writing her blog Confessions of a Bundyphile, https://bundyphile.com/E.J. has a unique perspective into the mind of brutal serial killer, Ted Bundy. Her work on Bundy has been featured on Bizarrepedia, the True Crime Guy web site, and she wrote Season 3 of the hit crime podcast, Criminology. (Today she adds the “Our True Crime” podcast to her list of credentials.) She is currently working with French author Fabien Richard on a book featuring the voices of Ted Bundy’s victims, survivors, and various law enforcement officials who interacted with him. The book is expected to be published sometime next year under the title “Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast.” She can currently be found on Facebook and Twitter @RoseDysfunction.Listener discretion by our long time spooky friend, Edward from @octoberpodvhshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProduced and musical score by the extremely talented and one of OTCP's bestie, Nico Vitessehttps://wetalkofdreams.com/Sources: Daily Mail Reporter. (2011, November 23). "Jilter lover who went on bloody rampage 'gave ex-boyfriend $10,000 cheque to prevent his wife since her' day before the massacre." Carolina-shootings-Mary-Ann-Holder-gave-ex-10-000-cheque-prevent-wife-suing-day-massacre.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065437/North-Carolina-shootings-Mary-Ann-Holder-gave-ex-10-000-cheque-prevent-wife-suing-day-massacre.htmlDiranian, S. (2017, June 13) "The Meaning of Being a Mother." www.hellomotherhood.com/article/536071-the-meaning-of-being-a-mother/"Filicide" Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide Friedman, S. (2007, October) "Child murder by mothers: patterns and prevention." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580Harvard Health Blog. (2011, March) "What pushes a person to commit suicide?" www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what -pushes-a-person-to-commit-suicideHuffington Post. (2012, December 19) "Mass Shooting Psychology: Spree Killers Have Consistent Profile, Research Shows." www.huffpost.com/entry/mass-shooting-psychology-spree-killers_n_2331236 Investigation Discovery. (2017, September 28) "Psychology of a Murder-Suicide: What makes a person kill, then kill themselves" Simmons, D. (2019, July 2) "7 Facts about Alienation of Affection in North Carolina." Sodoma Law. www.sodomalaw.com/7-facts-about-alienation-of-affection-in-north-carolina/Skerrett, P. (2012, September 24) "Suicide often not preceded by warnings." www.health.harvard.edu/blog/suicide-often-not-preceded-by-warnings-201209245331 "Spree Killer," Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree-killerWBTV News. (2011, November 22) "Stalking, nude photos and court filings preceded 7 shootings, 4 deaths. www.wbtv.com/story/16101818/st/ Wireback, T. (2012, November 12) "Mary Ann Holder homicides left scars survivors still feel." 0f1d-5918-b83d-1603699256ec.html">https://greensboro.com/news/crime/mary-ann-holder-homicides-left-scars-survivors-still-feel/article_34592d13-0f1d-5918-b83d-1603699256ec.htmlWireback, T. (2011, December 11) "Who was the real Mary Ann Holder?" mary-ann.htm">www.murderpedia.org/female.H/h/holder-mary-ann.htm