This week, Lisa and Aimee are anxious about the internet. Lisa tries to avoid social media while Aimee finds herself going down Instagram rabbitholes late into the night, and they both wonder: Why does it seem like the experience of being online lately is all trolls and no fun? They’re joined by New Yorker writer Andrew Marantz, author of the book Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation, who explains that social media is designed to be addictive, just like junk food. He also assures Lisa and Aimee that there is still good to be found in certain pockets of the internet—but that we should still remember to unplug every now and then. Like the show? Send us a note at anxiously@tabletmag.com. Follow us on Instagram @anxiouslypod and on Twitter @anxiouslypod. Our theme music is by Low Cut Connie. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices