Amanda and Alise chat with the host of Betches’ new podcast Money Please, Berna Anat. She shares why the advice to stop buying lattes ignores the structural barriers to financial success for most women and minorities, and how she balances giving financial advice with recognizing that some factors are out of people’s control. She explains how she’s worked to redefine typical benchmarks of financial success, unpacks financial trauma and shame, and details the specific ways that women are locked out of financial literacy. Then, Alise and Amanda react to Joe Manchin’s latest threat when it comes to Paid Leave. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices