Avatar vocalist Johannes Eckerström is our guest this week. We discuss how being controversial in metal is extremely hard work because of how far the genre has already pushed the edge, his band’s relationship with one visual director for over a decade, the realization that we have arrived in the dystopian world art has envisioned for ages, his journey to becoming vegan, being a huge fan of the writing of Trey Parker and Matt Stone, having to think outside the box to create music videos during quarantine, and how the book Sapiens influenced the band's new album, Hunter Gatherer. Petar, Brandon, and Sylvia tackle the feud between Sebastian Bach and Chris Jericho -- how unhinged it makes Sebastian Bach look, our thoughts on how Jericho should play this going forward -- and we theorize on why In Flames would decide to re-record songs on Clayman for a reissue. Songs: Avatar - “Silence In The Age of Apes" and "Colossus," Onslaught - “Religiousuicide” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices