This is grief, and vulnerability, and hurt, with a side of rage. If you can't listen due to your own emotions, that's totally fine and understandable. But it's a way to bear witness to two much-loved men and the daughters they left behind.Guest: Ariel, Malice podcastDisclaimer: Isaac (Kate's son)Art: Michael Furman (Ariel's dad)Music: Jake Pierle -- https://jakepierle.bandcamp.com/------------------------Facebook group: The Asylum -- https://bit.ly/iwbasylumMerch: https://bit.ly/iwbpodcastmerchPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/IWBpodcastSponsor: Bath By Bex (code CBDkate for 15% off)