This episode, co-hosts Lauren Ash and Zakkiyyah Najeebah discuss challenges they face on their respective self-care journeys—including unforgiveness, selfishness, patience, and more. This dialogue comes from a vulnerable place for both of them in the hopes that this conversation will inspire more women of color to open up about the challenges that they face in order to grow.

This week's sponsor: Warby Parker. To receive your free, 5-day home try on, go to warbyparkertrial.com/postloudness