This was a challenging episode, because I interview the founder of the Aryan Brotherhood, a racist prison gang. My mate and co-host Shaun Attwood is no stranger to true crime, having worked on both sides of it – as a journalist and presenter and also the boss of an organised crime ring in the States that smuggled ecstasy. Michael Thompson links: https://livelearnandprosper.org/ Shaun Attwood: https://www.youtube.com/user/derickatt https://twitter.com/shaunattwood https://www.instagram.com/shaunattwood Andrew Gold links: http://youtube.com/andrewgold1 http://instagram.com/andrewgold_ok http://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices