Today I have invited Jack Zenger to the show. Jack has spent, if you can believe it, five decades and then some working as an entrepreneur and also an academician. He's the CEO and co-founder of Zenger Folkman. He was a faculty member at USC and later taught at Stanford's Graduate School of Business, but beyond all of this, what Jack Zenger is really all about is relevant data. So that instead of just saying, "Well, this is what I think about the world," he actually has captured the data to distinguish between what we think and what is real. Discover more from Jack here: https://zengerfolkman.com/ Join my weekly newsletter at GregMcKeown.com/1mw Learn more about my books and courses at GregMcKeown.com