April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Psychiatrist, Dr. Angela Arnold who has worked on Melissa’s unsolved case. Dr. Arnold and Sheryl discuss their perspectives on trauma bonds, domestic violence and what realtionship imbalances look like in families.  They also discuss how childhood trauma can ultimately lead you to exactly what you were trying to get away from.  In this case, they discuss how Melissa’s childhood and experience shaped how she ended up with a guy like Christopher.  Dr. Arnold also gives her advice on how to detect a narcissist and signs of domestic violence, and more.    

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl sets the scene of exactly why Dr. Angela Arnold is part of her zone 7
• [2:25] If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s case | Part 6, and Melissa Wolfenbarger: Continued - Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s Case | Part 7
• [2:30] Dr. Angela Arnold has expertise in a lot of different areas such as anxiety and depression, attention deficit disorder, work-life balance, cold cases, and criminal behavior issues leading to crime suspect and victim-centered criminological review
• [4:20] “Families develop their own identities as a whole.”
• [8:50] What it means to love bomb someone 
• [10:24] Signs of devaluing a person
• [15:43] The enormous bond between Norma and Carl
• [20:00] Sheryl weighs in on her perspective of Chris and Carl's affiliation 
• [27:58] Dr. Angela weighs in on Melissa’s missing torso 
• [30:50] Motives as to why a husband would kill his wife
• [32:33] Red flags in domestic violence 
• [37:54] “Melissa had this funny back and forth where she loved Chris and she was scared of him, and he would, he would make her fearful, but then the next day he would do something that made her feel that love again. And it's a bond. It's, it's, that's why it's called a trauma bond.”
• [38:36] Question: Dr. Arnold, do you have any advice that you wanna give right now to everybody listening?
• [39:55] “People change based on what they feel more than what they know.” 
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator Sheryl McCollum talks with Lindsey Wade about her detective expertise, the early days of crime solving, and how free-range parenting changed in the ’90s. Lindsey brings light to many topics in her book, "In My DNA," and more. 

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Sheryl sets the scene to the episode and the guest for today’s zone 7 guest
• [3:10] “Sometimes in your life there will be full circle moments that you could never predict.”
• [4:17] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl introduces guest, Lindsey Wade to the listeners. Lindsey is a 14-year retired detective and author. Her retirement life has been spent in the SAKE program and as a senior investigator. 
• [7:13] Lindsey's early interest in crime solving
• [11:23] What happened to free-range parenting?
• [14:02] “During the search of the vehicle, we found six rolls of various kinds of tape. Thin white rope, a black handle butcher knife under the driver's seat. It's rape. I also observed the interior passenger side door handle was missing.”
• [16:24] Chapter seven: He picked that time, he picked that hour, he picked that victim. So if you go there, you can get insight from him. So kind of walk us through the importance for you of walking that crime scene from a cold case. 
• [20:35] Question: You are absolutely brilliant at utilizing resources and you do so many smart things like using somebody to help you create a time that includes documents from law enforcement, Department of Corrections, employment history, vehicle registration, address, history. Can you tell us who you used and how that came about? 
• [22:43] Question: So tell us about the John Doe warrant. This is another thing that you did a couple of times that I thought everybody needs to hear that and just be reminded of. 
• [26:23] Sexual predators: residents or predators? 
• [27:09] Dna in CODIS 
• [30::25] “I hate the term peeping Tom. We all know in this business, that's not what they're doing. No. And here's one thing I want people to understand.” 
• [40:00] “Sometimes I'll, I'll hear something about another jurisdiction in another state and I still feel compelled to call 'em and just say, Hey, I know you don't know me, but have you thought of this? You had such a full circle moment with, you know, the child from your community that was killed and then you solved it when you were grown. I mean, I just think that is unbelievable. Twist of fate that was, in my opinion 
• [42:12] “Have no regrets. Change the question mark into an exclamation point. One person can change the world, and I think that sums up Detective Lindsey Wade perfectly
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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• About the ‘Zone 7’ Host

  Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

  McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

  You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

  Social Links:

  • Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
  • Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
  • Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia.

Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior.

In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined again by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan as they discuss the details of Melissa’s murder case. 

They dissect potential thoughts from a murderer’s perspective, reasons proper tools are necessary when dismembering a body, the importance of understanding the anatomy of a body, initial problems with the case that could have saved time, and more.  

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. For this specific episode, listener discretion is advised. This information is not for shock value, but for the facts
• [0:34] Sheryl gives listeners an overview of Melissa’s case
• [0:36] If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Joseph Scott Morgan’s Insight on Melissa’s case | Part 6
• [2:16] Question: Joe Scott Morgan, What happened to Melissa after she was murdered?
• [12:52] “Some people rely on their faith. Some people rely on Jack Daniels. I tend to rely on just the human level, and I know when I get in there and I work alone as a crime scene investigator, it's just me and the body.”
• [15:31] Joe discusses unanswered questions surrounding the type of death Melissa experienced 
• [21:12] Initial problems with this particular case 
• [24:50] Question: Do you think the perpetrator was trying to make sure somebody misidentified her, or do you think it was part of the punishment in domestic violence cases?
• [25:42] “When you defile a person like this in death, that, that says so much about the psychopathology of the individual that's doing this.”
• [27:04] Question: What else should we be looking for as investigators?
• [34:17] “Just remember when you get frustrated by difficult cases. One should not pursue goals which are easily achieved.” 
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• • Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
  • Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
  • Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia.

Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior.

In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan as they discuss the details of Melissa’s murder case. They both not only describe the gruesome details around cases involving beheading and dismemberment but they also bring light to their professions that most never see.

They also dissect potential thoughts from a murderer’s perspective, the importance of understanding the anatomy of a body, and more.  

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Victims of Carl Patton - Liddie Evans Children Speak | Part 5 
• [4:16] “Our humor is sometimes very dark and a little twisted. But we can't spend all of our time crying.” 
• [4:30] Sheryl McCollum introduces Joseph Scott Morgan to listeners
• [7:22] Joe is the author of Blood Beneath My Feet: The Journey of a Southern Death Investigator, the host of the hit podcast Body Bags, and a distinguished scholar of applied forensics at Jacksonville State University
• [10:08] Sheryl gives a brief background of Melissa’s case for those who may be new to joining
• [15:47] “Avon Avenue is probably in the top five streets in Atlanta that I worked deaths on.”
• [19:50] Joe details necessary reasons anatomy knowledge is necessary for dismemberment 
• [22:04] Question: With the cases that you have worked on where there was a beheading… Was there also a dismemberment of the arms and legs, or is that rare for even you? 
• [28:26] Question: If Melissa were in fact pregnant, which is something she's told a judge, Something she told her mother. Do you think if he believed that she was pregnant and that her husband was responsible for this murder, do you think he would've buried his child, meaning her torso?
• [33:01] Geographical profiling  
• [33:13] Join us again next week as Joseph Scott Morgan leads us to the conclusion of what he believes happened to Melissa Wolfenbarger
• [34:43] Check out Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia.

Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by Liddie Evans' children: Philip (son-in-law), Carolyn, Renee, Roy and Sylvia. 

They join Sheryl to express their experience of losing their mom, Liddie, who was murdered at age 31 by Carl Patton. They discuss the pain they have endured and how life was with and without Liddie.

They also each share their feelings about the murder of Melissa and why they ultimately cannot forgive Carl. 

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Letters From Carl Patton | Part 4 
• [2:15] “We were told during the trial that their own daughter, Melissa had been murdered. I wouldn't wish that pain on anybody.”
• [2:48] Liddie Evans was 31 when she was reported missing
• [4:52] Question: Philip, did you have anything to do with Melissa’s murder?
• [5:48] Carolyn, one of Liddie’s daughters details out the events that took place the day Liddy was murdered
• [6:57] Question: Renee, tell us listeners how your mama, Liddie, was the life of the party?
• [9:24] Question: Roy, what would you say to Carl Patton if you could?
• [13:20] Question: Carolyn, do you think Norma was just telling a story while on stand? Do you think she was afraid of Carl or do you think she just didn't care? 
• [15:34] Question: Roy, for you being the oldest and a man, was this even more difficult for you because you could not protect the women in your life at that time?
• [17:35] Sheryl shares a piece of Carl Patton’s letters with Liddie’s children
• [17:35] “As I have told you many times, I didn't realize what hurt and harm I'd done till we lost Melissa. Nothing I can say or do will ever change 45 years ago. I have asked my family, the families of the victims, and God to forgive me. I know God will, and I understand why the victim's family won't. I will never forgive Chris, so I do understand their hate toward me.” -Letters from Carl Patton
• [22:18] Question: Can each of you take a second and think of anything you would like to share on this episode that you feel needs to be on this show?
• [31:20] “God is the giver and taker of life, not man.”
• [38:08] “Every person can make a difference and every person should try.” -Dr. E.H
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a forensic and crime scene expert for “Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,” and a CSI for a metro-area Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook, “Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.”

McCollum is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students, and the criminal justice community. They come together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

You can connect and learn more about McCollum’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• • Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
  • Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
  • Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder.

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, is joined by her husband, Walt McCollum, as they read the letters between Sheryl and Melissa’s father, Carl Patton. Carl’s letters detail out the importance of including him in the investigation of Melissa’s murder, the viewpoints from both a victim and a suspect, and insights on the relationship between Melissa and husband, Christopher Wolfenbarger.

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed the beginning of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check out those episodes here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Trace Sargent | Part 3
• [1:15] Sheryl introduces the significance of including Carl Patton in Melissa’s investigation 
• [5:42] Flint River Murders
• [7:14] Timeline of events - In 2003, Carl Miller Patton Jr. Was arrested. He was later convicted of the 1977 murders of Fred. Lidy Matthews Evans and Evan's boyfriend, Joe Cleveland 
• [10:36] Walt McCollum, Sheryl’s husband reads the letters of Carl Patton to the listeners
• [16:06] “A guilty conscience is a hell on earth that continues to punish and convict, and I deal with it every day.”
• [21:31] Snippets of Douglas McGregor 
• [23:30] One final letter from Carl...
• [28:18] “Never look down at anyone unless extending a hand to pick them back up.” -J.R
• [28:51] Join us next week as we talk exclusively to the children of Liddy Evans. We will have an opportunity to look at Carl's crimes and see if they factor in to the murder of Melissa Wolfenbarger
• [29:09] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for "Crime Stories with Nancy Grace," and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. 

On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Trace Sargent. Trace is one of the nation's leading K9 handlers who specializes in search, rescue, and recovery missions. Trace explains her background and how she fell in love with search and rescue. Trace also explains the way dogs are trained to search, why she uses multiple dogs on searches and a part of running a canine that may go unseen.

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed part one or two of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check those out here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1, Melissa Wolfenbarger: Karyn Greer | Part 2
• [2:28] Sheryl gives a brief background of guest, Trace Sargent. Trace is one of the nation's leading K9 handlers who specializes in search, rescue, and recovery missions.
• [6:27] Trace details the early days of getting involved with training dogs, and animals of all types. 
• [16:22] “I always put people before politics and principles before policies.” T.S
• [18:59] Sheryl gives a layout of the search party team for Melissa and the introduction to Trace, her dogs on the search, and the environment they experienced in Georgia 
• [21:32] Question: Why would it be important to have two dogs or more on a search such as Melissa’s? 
• [21:56] Natalie Holloway Case 
• [25:26] Trace explains how dogs are trained to find scents
• [32:09] A part of running a canine that most people don’t see
• [37:50] “Trust your dog.” -T.P 
• [38:02] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21-year-old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. 

On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by news anchor for WBS Channel 2 news, Karyn Greer. They comb through the details surrounding Melissa’s case and discuss in length the importance that media has in cases such as Melissa’s. Karyn also discusses her experience of what it’s like to follow a case for such a length of time.    

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. If you missed part one episode of Melissa Wolfenbarger’s case check it out here: Melissa Wolfenbarger: Norma and Tina Patton | Part 1 
• [2:00] Sheryl introduces the news anchor for WBS Channel 2 news, Karyn Greer to the listeners
• [5:00] Question: Seeing as though you have covered this case for quite some time, do you have a method for when witnesses or people want to be interviewed? Can you tell us what that looks like?
• [8:08] “But something really incredible happened when the assistant district attorney got on the scene. What was that?...” 
• [8:45] Question: When Adrian love stood where the skull was found and saw its proximity to where the husband worked, What was her reaction?
• [12:12] The media can do things law enforcement just can't do, and one of those things is that they can reach a ton of people with one episode 
• [20:19] Everyone remembers Scott Peterson
• [21:16] Question: Have you ever seen a case like this before in your career?
• [24:11] Crime Con
• [29:04] “Always remember these stories belong to the families. All we can do for them, and the loved ones they've lost is to tell the story. It's for their families. And when the teleprompter keeps rolling, just speak from the heart.”
• [29:30] Tune in next week when Sheryl is joined by canine search and rescue expert, Trace Sargent
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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April 29th, 1999. A skull is found in a trash bag outside Action Glass in Atlanta, Georgia. Soon after, in different trash bags, various other body parts are found. The remains are identified as the remains of Melissa Wolfenbarger, a 21 year old married mother of two who is reported missing several months prior. In a remarkable twist, Melissa’s remains are verified only after her Father is arrested in connection to an unrelated murder. 

On this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum, a Crime Scene Investigator, is joined by Norma Patton, Melissa's mother, and Tina Patton, Melissa's sister, to discuss Melissa's life and the complex investigation to identify her remains. The conversation explores the details surrounding Melissa's case and sheds light on the challenges faced by law enforcement in identifying the victim and the killer.

Show Notes:

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.  
• [1:00] The introduction to the case - Sheryl describes an intricate and complex case. Various 
• [7:30] Norma, who is Melissa's mother, and Tina, who is Melissa's sister, are introduced
• [10:00] Tina was approached by Melissa's father at her workplace and asked about Melissa's whereabouts, which made her realize the seriousness of the situation
• [12:30] Despite marital problems, would Melissa ever leave her two children?
• [13:30] Melissa’s Father, Carl Patton is arrested for 5 murders that occurred in 1973. Norma helped Carl dispose of the bodies
• [16:00] The unknown skull is identified… as Melissa Walfenberger. Mother of two small children, dead at 21 years old
• [17:00] A primary suspect? Melissa’s husband, Christopher Wolfenbarger
• [21:30] How the death of Carl's daughter altered his perspective on the murders he committed
• [24:00] Melissa did not have a history of causing problems, but it is believed that her husband played a role in her becoming entangled in trouble.
• [26:00] Going to the location of where Melissa’s skull was found; her husband’s workplace.
• [29:00] “She told me ‘my husband is in jail for murder and I was on probation cuz I helped him dispose of bodies.’ Now, I don't know about y'all, but that was an unusual start of a conversation for me.”
• [34:00] As evidence accumulates, a case against Melissa's husband starts to take shape. The circumstantial evidence, coupled with his behavior after Melissa's disappearance, points to him as a potential suspect.
• [37:00] “Melissa didn't deserve what she got. She did not deserve, you know, however she died.”
• [37:30] “Thank you Sheryl, and I certainly appreciate everything that you've done cuz we wouldn't [...] have gotten this far without you. You had just as much to do with all of this and getting, getting us to the right people that could actually do something.”
• [39:00] One of the striking aspects of this case, which even Sheryl has not encountered before, is that a killer has become a crime victim. Carl Patton, Melissa's father, still writes to Sheryl from prison.
• [40:00] Next week on the show, we will be joined by Karen Greer, a renowned television personality in Atlanta.
• Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” or Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In November of 1987, 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson, a truck driver, last seen on Thanksgiving night, vanished. Fred's car was found a month later in the Atlanta airport's parking lot with two uncashed checks in the car. Years later, Fred’s remains were found in ex-girlfriend, Connie Quedens well. 

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Clay Bryant as they discuss the case of 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson who vanished in November, 1987.  Clay lays out the glaring red flags in Fred's case that went unnoticed years prior, the reason Fred’s son wanted the case further investigated, and what led to Connie’s guilty verdict. 

Show Notes: 

• [0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum. Sheryl gives an introduction of Criminal Investigator, Clay Bryant to the listeners
• [3:00] Solving the West Georgia Murder of Gwendolyn Moore | Chief Clay Bryant Part 1
• [3:30] Criminal Investigator, Clay Bryant details out the second case he’s solved involving a well
• [7:10] 49-year-old Fred Wilkerson was a truck driver that vanished in November of 1987
• [8:59] Sheryl and Clay go over some glaring red flags during the disappearance of Fred Wilkerson
• [10:54] A break in Fred’s case 
• [13:48] “[Clay] became an expert in solvability factors. He would look at what he had and instantly know what he needed to push that case into the endzone. Clay's gift is being able to talk to people and pull information out of them that nobody's ever heard. To stack that information into this pyramid of justice, he does it better than anybody.”
• [22:16] Clay details out the trial and evidence in the court
• [28:20] “The truth will always come to light.”
• [28:50] Next week on Zone 7, we will be discussing the unsolved case of 21-year-old Melissa Wolfenbarger 
• [29:15] Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! How to Leave an Apple Podcast Review: First, Open the podcast app on your iPhone, Mac, or iPad. Then, hit the “Search” tab at the bottom right-hand corner of the page and search for Zone 7. Select the podcast, and scroll down to find the subheading “Ratings & Reviews”. and select “Write a Review.” Next, select the number of stars you’d like to leave. Please choose 5 stars! Using the text box which says “Title,” write a title for your review. Then in the text box, write the review itself. The review can be up to 300 words long, but doesn’t need to be much more than: “Love the show! Thanks!” Once you’re done select “Send” in the upper right-hand corner.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org

Social Links:

• Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
• Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
• Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.