On his road trip around Australia, Henry Rollins’ finds when asking people about what tough means to them the conversation always turns to the environment. It’s no different when he meets bush poet Murray Hartin. While huddled around the campfire with Murray and his mates, Henry hears how the landscape has shaped their definition of tough, and what it is about Murray’s poems that makes the toughest of men cry.

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For Adam Briggs, tough has always been about survival.  A Yorta Yorta man, he grew up in Shepparton, Victoria, before moving to Melbourne and making his mark through music and comedy. In this episode, Henry Rollins talks to Briggs about what it was like growing up in a small town, and how returning home has changed the way he thinks about tough.

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Clover Moore has been involved in politics for 38 years and for the last 14 she’s been Lord Mayor of Sydney. She’s stood in 13 elections and won them all. But it hasn’t been easy - she’s copped her fair share of criticism along the way, which Clover says has often been quite hurtful. But as Henry Rollins discovers, she’s made of pretty tough stuff.

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In 2015, pro-surfer Mick Fanning made international headlines when he was attacked by a great white shark while surfing in South Africa. The viral news clip shows Mick staring down the shark before giving it a whack and getting away. It doesn’t get tougher than that, but as Henry Rollins finds out, there’s way more beneath the surface with this guy.

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Tough has evolved and Henry Rollins is on a roadtrip across Australia to find out how. What better place to start than rural Queensland on a huge property with farmer Dave Graham. Dave was raised to be tough, in places where the drought years are long and the flash flooding unpredictable, it’s the only way to get by. But growing up in the country was tough for Dave for other reasons -- he’s gay. So, what impact has this had on his definition of tough?

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