Ellen Pao received international attention when she filed a gender discrimination pao-kleiner-perkins-case-decision.html"> lawsuit against Silicon Valley venture capital fund Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. She lost her case, but the lawsuit catalyzed a conversation we’re still having today about the lack of diversity in the workplace.

In this episode, Ellen and I discuss:

• Ellen’s experience at Kleiner and what prompted her decision to file the gender discrimination lawsuit
• What Ellen would do differently, knowing what she knows now
• How much (or little) progress we’ve made in educating people about diversity issues
• How today’s workers, regardless of their own gender, orientation, ethnicity, or ability, seek out employers who have a proven commitment to fostering diverse and inclusive workplaces
• Why an inclusive and diverse culture starts with the leadership of the CEO
• Ways to confront bias and discrimination at work

Check out Ellen’s book, Reset: My Fight for Inclusion and Lasting Change, and her nonprofit, Project Include.

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Bond Vet founder and Chief Veterinary Officer Dr. Zaynab Satchu is quick to point out that their company is not trying to disrupt the veterinary industry. But they are trying to change it, using technology and thoughtful design, and by focusing on the emotional wellbeing of their animal patients and their owners, as well as their employees.

On this episode, I chatted with Dr. Zay about how she made the leap from vet to startup founder.

What we talked about:

• Dr. Zay’s journey to becoming a veterinarian, and how she knew she wanted to build her own company
• What makes Bond Vet different from other vet clinics
• The importance of being vulnerable as a leader
• Dr. Zay’s 20-year goal to reduce the rate of suicide in the vet space, and how she brings mental health care front-and-center with her teams

Learn more about Bond Vet at www.bondvet.com and on Instagram, @BondVetClinic. If you have ideas for episode topics or guests, send them straight to press@themuse.com.

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Most people will have an average of 12 jobs in their lifetime, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, and younger workers will change jobs more frequently with an average tenure of 2.8 years. With every new job, and especially bigger career changes, it can be common to feel doubt and anxiety about whether you’re up for the challenge.On this episode, I chatted with César Ruiz, Regional Vice President at Microsoft, about his career path, which has included jumps into several different industries. César talks candidly about imposter syndrome, both how he manages his own and how he helps his team manage it, too.

What we talked about:

• César’s career changes from law and government work, to finance, to advertising, and finally into his current role at Microsoft
• César’s experience being at 7 World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001
• Ways to work through imposter syndrome
• The importance of mentorship throughout your career, and especially during a career change

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Stereotyping is how our brains work, and it takes work to be self-aware when our biases creep in. That’s just the first step, though. When we recognize and understand our biases, we then have to be intentionally inclusive of other people so we can create room for them and their perspectives. 

This is a topic Cindy Augustine, Global Chief Talent Officer, and her team at FCB have thought a lot about. On this episode, Cindy and I talked about:

• Cindy’s transition from being an attorney to being an HR leader
• How Cindy “fully embraces” her responsibility to be a role model
• How Cindy and her team built the Intentional Inclusion workshops that people want to be part of
• Cindy tells a beautiful story about letting people in and dealing generously with them — and herself

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At some point in your career, you will likely be part of a company that undergoes a merger or acquisition. These deals often have a major impact on employees, and it can sometimes feel like you’re left figuring out how to survive amid all the change.This episode is a deep-dive into one of the largest mergers & acquisitions in the history of the technology industry: when Dell Technologies acquired data storage company EMC for $67 billion in 2016. I talked with Marie Moynihan and Brent Amundson, who lead talent acquisition efforts at Dell, about:

• How they approached the opportunity to create a new “third company”
• What it takes to thrive during an acquisition
• What sets high-performing people apart

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When you hear about the “gig economy,” you might think about an army of creative freelancers who are traveling the world while working. That’s some of the people represented in the gig economy, but there are also people doing this work because they’re not ready to retire, or because they can’t find full-time employment.

On this episode, I interview Sarah Kessler, journalist and author of Gigged: The End of the Job and the Future of Work, to go beyond the myths of gig work.

What we talked about:

• The real impact of the gig economy on workers and companies
• What types of people are moving into gig work
• Tips and best practices for people considering gig work and for companies hiring gig workers

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Gigged: The End of the Job and the Future of Work (Sarah’s book — so good)
• The Good Jobs Strategy by Zeynep Ton

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Chances are good that most people listening live within a few miles of a Walmart. With more than 2.2 million employees, it is the largest private employer in the world. On this episode, I chatted with Amy Goldfinger, SVP of Global Talent Acquisition at Walmart, about her approach to building great teams.

What we talked about:

• The company values Amy saw firsthand when she joined Walmart
• The history of Walmart’s famous phrase, “Our people make the difference” and how it inspires the company’s policies and programs
• How Walmart is changing as a business
• Amy's advice for prospective Walmart employees

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Careers at Walmart
• Made in America by Sam Walton

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It takes a lot more than motivational trainings and networking dinners to help women achieve their financial and professional objectives. And for Sallie Krawcheck, the goal is clear: We need to get more money in the hands of women.

On this episode, I talk with Sallie, CEO and co-founder of Ellevest, about:

• Why it’s so important to close the gender pay gap
• Our experiences as female founders raising money for our startups
• The work Sallie and her team are doing at Ellevest to promote women’s financial literacy
• How having a diverse workforce leads to better investing and business results
• Why women need to start networking earlier in their careers

Checkout these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Sallie’s Twitter
• Financial information at Ellevest

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Any working parent knows how tough it can be to manage competing priorities.

While we can’t always control everything about our jobs, we can set boundaries and be clear in our intentions so we stay focused on the most important things.

On this episode, I speak with Michelle Peluso, SVP of Digital Sales and CMO at IBM. Michelle has held C-level roles at some of the biggest companies in the world, but she says her bio can be reduced to one simple sentence: “I work and I’m a mom.”

What we talked about:

• Why Michelle seeks roles and companies where she can learn
• How Michelle prioritizes her time to ensure she’s focused on outcomes
• The importance of surrounding yourself with a strong team
• Adopting agile across a marketing organization 
• The simple recipe for inclusion at your organization

Checkout these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Careers at IBM

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We talk a lot about bringing your authentic self to work, but what does that actually look like? On her podcast Hello Monday, LinkedIn’s Jessi Hempel interviews a wide range of successful people about their careers. I invited her to share some of the things she’s learned along the way. 

What we talked about:

• Embracing your individual strengths and not resisting who you are
• Jobs, vocations, and fulfillment at work
• When it’s a good idea to help an employee look for other work
• Setting technology boundaries
• What we’d tell our younger selves when we were just starting our careers
• Season 2 sneak peek of Hello Monday

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Jessi’s podcast, Hello Monday
• Reboot by Jerry Colonna (an upcoming Hello Monday guest)

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