In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with actor, entrepreneur, and two-time New York Times bestselling author Tabitha Brown about the joy of giving grace to others, how to adopt a vegan lifestyle, and why there’s no such thing as time wasted.

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week – a mom gets called a bully for protecting her daughter, and a metaphorical clock sounding an alarm for humanity. They also share their antidotes: closet organizing, and impromptu friend visits.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“There is a fountain of youth: it is your mind, your talents, the creativity you bring to your life.”

- Sophia Loren

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In this episode of The Antidote LIVE from The Virgil in Los Angeles, Amy and Grace connect with actor, director, and producer Jay Ellis. Jay discusses owning the start of his day and the mental health benefits of walking. Later in the episode, stand-up comedian and actor Sydnee Washington joins Amy and Grace for our wellness shot segment, where we give advice to our audience and listeners to help solve their real-life issues, from dating to bad weaves.

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week –  M&M’s replaces “polarizing” mascots to make them more inclusive, and how the 2023 Oscars failed to nominate any women directors. They also share their antidotes: a neighborhood find, and reading by the fire. 

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On this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace share their first solo trips – a grad school vacation to England, and a language immersion program in the south of France.

Amy and Grace also share their bummer news of the week – an indie romance author faked her death, and white TikTok influencers “discover” Black hair products. They also share their antidotes: drag queen performances, and a juicy audiobook.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“Negativity is the enemy of creativity” - David Lynch

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In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with poet, mental health advocate, and New York Times bestselling author Bassey Ikpi about the power of virtual reality fitness, romance novels, and living with bipolar two disorder.

***If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts or a crisis, please call or text the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by dialing or texting 988.***

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week – artists missing from Rolling Stone’s 200 greatest singers of all time list, and the pressures within the entertainment industry. They also share their antidotes: cooking and New Year’s rituals.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody can plan weird; that’s easy. What’s hard is to be as simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple, that’s creativity.”

- Charles Mingus

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In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace get a natal chart reading from astrologer Mecca Woods and chat about the purpose of astrology and get self-care recommendations according to their signs.

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week – the impact Black Twitter’s demise will have on social justice reform, and a children’s book created entirely using AI. They also share their antidotes: a closet purge and an early morning walk and talk with a friend.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“You don't start out writing good stuff. You start out writing crap and thinking it's good stuff, and then gradually you get better at it.

That's why I say one of the most valuable traits is persistence.”

- Octavia E. Butler

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In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with Roy Wood Jr. about baseball, travel, and therapy.

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week – A reddit post that speaks to how unsafe women feel in public, and a man’s Tesla shut down and locked him inside the car. They also share their antidotes: haircare, and vacation pics.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“Don’t think. Thinking is the enemy of creativity. It’s self-conscious, and anything self-conscious is lousy. You can’t try to do things. You simply must do things.”

- Ray Bradbury

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On this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace share the most important lessons they’ve learned this year, from trusting their gut to focusing their energy.

Amy and Grace also share their bummer news of the week – Stephen “tWitch” Boss’ death, and Megan Thee Stallion’s testimony in court around her trauma.  

If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts or a crisis, please call or text the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by dialing or texting 988.

They also share their antidotes: a luxurious advent calendar and window shopping with friends.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“Creativity is intelligence having fun.”

-Albert Einstein

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In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with standup comedian, writer and actor Jordan Carlos in a live conversation from this year’s New York Comedy Festival. Jordan joins Amy and Grace in a new segment called The Wellness Shot, where we give advice to our audience and listeners to help solve their real-life issues.

Amy and Grace also share their bummer news of the week –  Odell Beckham Jr. was recently removed from an American Airlines flight, and an antibiotic shortage. They also share their antidotes: Broadway and a “hot girl walk.” 

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

Amy The world is a dumpster fire. I'm Amy.

Grace And I'm Grace.

Amy And we want to f---ing help.

Grace We're comedy writers in Los Angeles. And as a reflex to the madness on the news, we're keeping a positive but opinionated.

Amy We talk about cultural moments we love.

Grace Talk to people we adore. 

Amy Crushes we have.

Grace And self-care we stan.

Amy During these trying times, we all need a show that focuses on joy.

Grace This is The Antidote.

Amy Pow, pow, pow.

Grace Hi, everybody. Welcome, welcome, welcome. We are back. I'm a little crazy today. We finished shooting last night at 1 a.m. and here I am in the morning and I feel good. I still haven't seen my friend. Hi, amy

Amy Yay hi. And also congratulations to my friend for finishing her shoot. Like, literally, I feel like you've lived in New York for nine years.

Grace I know I do too. I feel like it's been 20,000 years. I was young when I left. I'm old now.

Amy But at the end of it you have a beautiful, magnificent, funny and hilarious show to show the world and hopefully we will be seeing it soon.

Grace Yeah, one that my wonderful friend Amy directed two episodes of. So, so, you know, stay tuned for the Amy and Grace collabo with Michelle Buteau and other wonderful people.

Amy Yes, that's right.

Grace Girl, girl, did you hear about this Good Morning America thing?

Amy The Good Morning America scandal is all over my timeline. My thing about the Twitter feed this past week is that I had to come in contact with two people who I did not know who they were. And now I know everything about them. And I'm talking about T.J. Holmes. Yeah. And Amy Robach. Yeah. I'm like, who are y'all?

Grace Yeah, I had no idea who they were either. I mean, the T.J. Holmes guy looked a little bit more familiar to me, but I was like, oh, I've maybe seen that before. But that woman, she she looks like a copy of so many other women I've seen on tv.

Amy You know, so crazy to me because both of them are married in other relationships. T.J. Holmes, a man I didn't know existed, you know, posted like a tribute to his wife, man, a year ago, like less than a year ago, posted a tribute to his wife about how I tried to make her leave and she won't leave because she's got a black superwoman energy, whatever the f---. And then literally he's out here touching a white woman's ass. And I'm like, I have to say grace. So the there's this woman on Twitter. I don't know her personally, but her handle is batty, ma'am. So that's B.A. YMCA lady. And she has, like, just a little mini thread called Men Will Embarrass You. And this week's Men Men Will Embarrass You is this man, T.J. Holmes, given this tribute to his f---ing wife? And I got to say, lady, I don't know you, but it's time to leave.

Grace You got to.

Amy Do you need me to show up, need me- to the window? Just lift it up. Help you down. You can Rapunzel throw out your hair and I'll just drag you. Right? Like, I don't know how we.

Grace No.

Amy Make you leave, but you got to go, girl.

Grace It is so embarrassing. And the thing is that they weren't even trying to hide it. They were not being discreet. Nice. And they know they're on TV. I don't know what they thought. That they could just blend in like that. They were just in a bar on the street, grabbing ass, walking through there, walking through the park hand-in-hand. Like at least have the respect for your spouses that have you off again, because I guess they're both separated, right?

Amy I don't know if they were. I mean, that feels like new information was like something that was like we were separated. Like, it doesn't I'm like where they. Like, we'll never know.

Grace But even like you still have a marital contract, at least don't like be out in the open, go in the hotel room or whatever. You know, don't be just out in the open grabbing booties and stuff, you know.

Amy And also grabbing groceries. They were like doing like daily routine things. Like they're a couple when people on TV back to normal, I'm like, y'all, you have faces. People recognize you're in like a million or so homes across America. Every morning y'all are on TV. You can't just be out here acting like you're f---ing Tam and Pam. But you know Pam, like, I don't know, like in Milwaukee who nobody's paying attention to. Like you, literally. I don't know if I would call them famous, but they are you know, they're known.

Grace And that's the thing. Like you get the privilege of having millions of dollars and being famous and getting free sh-- because you are on GMA. So you have to accept what comes with that privilege, which is that people know who you are and you can't cheat out in the open. Yeah, probably any Tom, Dick and Harry or whatever. You could go to one city over and you could be acting like y'all married each other. But ya'll can.

Amy Also the audacity to cheat in the morning, because that's the other thing. They're Good Morning America. And then they were out in the open in the morning and I'm like, it just was me. I was like, How do we doing out in the morning doing chores? But anyway, I do think that it reminds me of a conversation we had with Jordan. We had a lot of questions about relationships, about being far our guest that's coming up this episode, Jordan Carlos, who did our live show from Brooklyn, New York, which was a part of the New York Comedy Festival on November. BR Well, we had a few questions about relationships, so stick around to hear that in a new segment we created called The Wellness Shop. And if you're in a relationship now, hug your partner, set them free. But don't be doing this sh--.

Grace Don't be embarrassed and ask the men or women. Anyway, we wouldn't need the antidote if we didn't have the bummer news.

Amy Starting now, top of the hour. Bummer. News of the week. Our first topic is that athlete and you know, hottie with the body. Odell Beckham Jr has been removed from an American Airlines flight recently over, quote unquote, concerns for his health while sleeping with a blanket over his face. Those who don't know Odell Beckham Jr is a very well known wide receiver in the NFL. He catches ball. He's a free agent right now. Yes. He catches balls for a living. Well done. Great for for sports. But he's like a free agent right now, like people trying to court him because, like, you know, he's good at it. Yeah, he's very good. And it's not just because of his looks. Why am I like, oh, I don't know. Well, Beckham, Junior, what a hottie. But anyway, I only know about him because a a few comedians a few years back said some weird sh-- about him. And then part B, there used to be a billboard of him in an underwear ad on La Cienega, and I'd pass it every time I was going to work, and I was like, Who's that? So I learned about sports that day. But anyway, Odell Beckham has a tradition of draping a blanket over his face during long flights so he can sleep, according to his attorney. And this time, while asleep, the flight returned to the gate and Beckham was asked to leave the flight as he had not buckled his seatbelt at the time due to being asleep. Even after offering to buckle his seatbelt, the flight attendant said it's too late now to exit or the entire aircraft would be deplaned in the airports. Report, they claim, quote, he appeared to be coming in and out of consciousness, end quote. And we're concerned he was, quote, seriously ill, end quote, leading to the plane, returning to the gate after the aircraft was deplaned. Beckham left the plane without incident because, you know, he ig but he did tweet that quote, Never in my life have I experienced what just happened to me. I've seen it all.

Grace This seems weird to me. I don't know this. I don't know how this happened. Like he was sleepy and ask somebody with a very sleepy friend, Amy, and she's talking about me. She can sleep anywhere. And there have been times where I'm like, Wake up, Amy, wake up. You got to go like, Oh, and it's not like it's sometimes it just doesn't happen. Some people sleep hard and it doesn't feel like a flight attendant would have never seen that before. And then once he said he would buckle a seatbelt, like, you're going to have to deplane everybody. He was nice because I'd be like, literally, you woke me up to buckle my seatbelt and I'm doing it. So like, why can't I go see a Black man?

Amy He had to be nice. Like, that's the thing that makes me upset and that's what it's like. He couldn't be like, what? For too long? It's like he's a famous black man and knows it, and he's like, I got to get off this plane. Like, you can't raise a stink.

Grace Yeah, it's weird. I have this story. Something seems off. I and I feel bad because I'm sure that was so embarrassing, you know? And then it becomes a whole news story. And, yes, he should have buckled the seatbelt. Yes. But when he offers to buckle it, they should have just let the plane go without incident. Like what was getting him off the flight? Like it wasn't going to delay it more or less. Like you could have just let him stay. So. Boo American Airlines once again.

Amy Oh, my God. They're the same airline that f---ed up my luggage and wouldn't replace it. So, American Airlines, you're on notice. I know that's not the only bit of bummer news this week. The other thing that I read about is that RSV, you know, that respiratory syncytial virus. I don't even know how to say that middle word. That's why we abbreviating it. RSV, a virus particularly common among children, is on the rise and may be resulting in an antibiotics shortage. So I read that amoxicillin, one of the most common antibiotics for children, is facing a shortage because despite RSV being a viral infection, amoxicillin is often prescribed as secondary protection for underlying bacterial infections that arise during having RSV. So a doctor in USA Today said quote, For example, in addition to RSV, a child may also have developed an ear infection or pneumonia which could be treated with amoxicillin. And in most people, RSV just causes mild cold like symptoms. But in children, the elderly, in immunocompromised it can be very severe. So now that we're back into a flu season, now that we're back into a COVID surge, our issues are back to being near capacity and we are having a problem with this. So for me, I'm like, the reason this is a bummer to me is like of all the COVID shortages, we had toilet paper that was out, we had restaurant menus, they digital now. We didn't have hand sanitizer. This one really matters. Like, can we figure out how to get the kids their drugs?

Grace I really hope that Congress, useless congress tries to step in and do something.

Amy I feel you because it reminds you of the baby formula shortage that we talked about a few months back on another episode where it was just kind of like, Wait, we really out here? Just be like, babies, y'all good? Like we have to. The future of the country.

Grace I like that. Some say they're more important than the rest of us. You know, first of all, we already ruined the planet for them. We've already like we don't have a good planet to give them the you know, we flooded their schools with guns, so they now have to to go to school and be like father like I make at home today. So at the very least, can we just get the baby some antibiotics, whatever they need to do? Because, you know, there's nothing fatter than like a sick baby, you know?

Amy Yeah, well, I don't know how science works, but I'm thinking about these babies.

Grace Okay, let's get into this antidote, though.

Amy So this is a segment where we tell you about the culture we consumed and things we did this week that made us feel better about the bummer news. What was your antidote this week, Grace?

Grace Broadway, baby.

Amy Oh, hello. Yes. Hello, my darlin. Hello, my baby. Hello. my honey.

Grace Child, so in my previous life, I was a theater actor. So there is just something uniquely beautiful about going to see live theater. And I just I've been in L.A. for a while, and I'm sure there's great productions in Los Angeles as well. People keep telling me, but when you've had Broadway, you know, it's really hard to even imagine going to see live theater anywhere else. So I lived in New York for a very, very long time, and I actually was supposed to go to Mexico over the Thanksgiving holiday. I don't know what I was thinking, like thinking that I, in the middle of production would go to Mexico. Wait, why? Yeah, I was going to go there for the long weekend, so I decided to cancel that trip, and instead I decided to go see two Broadway shows because I've been so busy at work that I haven't gotten a chance to see a lot of Broadway. So I saw Death of a Salesman.

Amy Oh, nice.

Grace Which is like Black Death of a Salesman. Which is like it should be black because it's such a black story. And Wendell Pierce, he was in like, oh, right above. Like, you know, there is a little bit of a little hiccup, Eddie. And it was so fun because they were smoking on stage. And then the fire alarm went off and they stopped and that it was just like, ooh, peek behind the fourth wall. And there's just like had to get off stage of the they it took about 15 minutes to resolve and then they came back wow. And they started the scene all over again like f---ing pros that they are. But yeah.

Amy They started the scene all over. That's great. And then they just weren't smoking.

Grace Yeah. Yeah. And so it was him. It was Sharon Clark who was also incredible, who played his wife. Then there's a guy named Chris Davis who played Biff and McKinley Belcher as happy. And I cannot forget Andre de Shields was in it as well, who is just a magician? Yes.

Amy And he was The Wiz in The Wiz. Holy sh--.

Grace He was the Wiz in the Wiz. 

Amy Oh, I knew. I knew that face.

Grace It was incredible. And like, I wept because I thought about all the black men that were alive back then and the lack of opportunity that they had. So it really hit different when you see a black man going to like this white guy to like beg for a job and that he just couldn't make it work with his family. And I know Arthur Miller wrote it, but it was just it just really hit when you think about our ancestors and what they'd been through. Come on. And so and it was just like such a cathartic weeping. And I was just like, thank you for your sacrifice so that this generation could have what they have. So that was the Friday after Thanksgiving and then the Saturday after Thanksgiving, I saw a show called Six.

Amy Oh, my gosh. Tell me about six.

Grace So Six is about Henry the eighth's six different wives.

Amy Oh, that's cool.

Grace So it's like a concert almost. Mm hmm. So basically, the premise of the show is they're just like, who had it worse? Like a six women. So.

Amy Girl, girl, girl. You all had it pretty sh---y.

Grace Yeah, you all had a pretty sh---y cause that guy was that great. So they each get their own song, and all of them just had incredible voices, but in different ways, and they were just singing down.

Amy It's coming to L.A. just so you know. Six is coming to L.A..

Grace I mean, I would see it again. It was so fun. And then it was also short. It was like 80 minutes, no intermission.

Amy Oh, cute. I like it quick.

Grace Yeah, I like it quick. I'm a half hours high, bitch, you know what I'm saying? And they were just so good. Like, you know, you sometimes you got to go to Broadway to hear real ass voices, you know, like there are singers like Beyonce, say, Adele and like Jasmine Sullivan. You know, we have yes, we have girls that can sing them down. Yeah, but.

Amy Broadway is a different type of vocality.

Grace Yeah. Yeah. But it's genuinely great to see it and to know that it was live and they were just incredible. So that was my antidote. Broadway, baby. So what was your antidote this week, Amy?

Amy Well, you know, a few weeks back, we had a guest on a show named Ashley Blaine Feathers and Jenkins. And I literally have been thinking about the fact that she said you should go on a hot girl, walk for weeks. And I love to walk. I love to walk around my neighborhood. I love to take a stroll. I love to take an urban hike. Urban hike means you're walking through the city.

Grace Yes. She doesn't like a regular hike.

Amy And that's my sh--. I don't like a real hike. Grace knows this. I will do a hike, but I won't repeat a hike. And so this week, like, I've been traveling so much, I'm so tired, I'm still jetlagged from going to India. And so I decided that I was going to walk every day for exercise. And that fell apart real quick because I said, haha you thought and it started raining every morning and so I couldn't walk. But before the day it rains I went for a hiker walk. And the reason why this walk was a hardcore walk to me is because I made a point to walk with a smile on my face, which is really silly. But I was like, I've like really I've been so stressed. And I was like, the corners of my mouth are hurting. Like there was a day where I was like, What's wrong with the corner of my mouth? And I realized I'm actually frowning and I'm like, Oh, f--- this. This is how you get wrinkles. And B, I just think it's stress. It's just like exhaustion and stress and travel and all the things. So I went on this walk and I was like, I'm going to take this walking, I'm gonna smile. And I was listening to this woo woo book while I was walking and just smiling while I'm on my on my little stroll. And I walked all the way up to my viewpoint. There was like a beautiful view above my neighborhood where you can just see, like, west l.a. Like, spread out before your eyes. And I walked all the way up there, and there were some men up there who were, like, just, like, chillin, like, because there's also, like, a sports area. So maybe they're about to play some sports. BELL But at any rate, I stopped up there and I was like, I happen to be a hetero female who's attracted to men. So I saw these men and they were good looking and I was like, Here I am with my little smile on my face up here being a hot girl. And I was like, I didn't interact with them. I was like, they could be, you know, terrible. So I was like, I'm not going to interact with them, but I at least got to just, like, be cute and walk past them like athletic men and then continue on the walk. And I was like, this was a hot girl walk. So I started my day. That day feels so good. And I did the silliest thing. I sent like a video of one of my friends being like, I'm going to walk every day this week. I felt so good. And then the next morning it rains. And I think on video being like, I am walking today, bitch.

Grace How come you didn't send me that video? Who's this bitch? Just sell it. Send a video. That's what I'm saying. Just cause I'm gone. Just because I'm in New York City. This is the reason why I got to get back to L.A.. All my friends are forgetting me that.

Amy I'm like, I can't-

Grace My phone still works. So why.

Amy I can't bother Grace, she's on set. I can't just send her this video of me being like, I love walks. She would have been like bitch I've been up since 3 a.m.

Grace Yes, I would love to get that video. Brighten my day for you that I'd be an antidote. So that's what you did.

Amy Yes. Well, if you guys tried any of our antidotes at home, share them with us using the hashtag. That's my antidote. Or leave us a voicemail at 8336, 8436, eight three. Stay tuned. You'll hear more from our live show right after this break.

Grace Our guest today ain't new to this comedy. You know, he is a stand up comedian and actor who just finished costarring and writing on the first season of Freeform's. Everything's Trash with Phoebe Robinson. He co-hosts WNYC Adulting podcast with our friend in Queens, Michelle Buteau. He has also written for HBO Divorce, written and performed for Comedy Central's The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore and Recipes First Wives Club. Please welcome the amazing Jordan Carlos.

Jordan Carlos Good knees, good knees. That's what it's all about. And I feel sorry for the people standing in the back.

Amy No, don't apologize.

Jordan Carlos All right. How's it going? Brooklyn. How we doing? Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to applaud the people that came early over here. Look at this man. It's modest, but so smug. So smug. Got the good seats. Got the good. Good. Hello, love. Gosh, it's just so good to be here. Surrounded by this black excellence on stage.

Grace I hope you're including yourself upon that number that.

Amy She worked with Jordan this week. He's being very humble. He is an amazing actor and so, so funny. And I got to direct him this week. And I got to tell you, I was a tyrant and he handled it well.

Jordan Carlos Yeah, yeah. What have you. What if I said you were she was in one of those, like, elevated seats, right? Like with a crane. But you were you.

Grace She does like to beat people.

Jordan Carlos She was in this really like, official jumpsuit. You are the official ass jump director. She's like, is she directing Apocalypse Now? Like what?

Amy That is right. I need people to know that I came to work.

Jordan Carlos Work it, but you were great. And I was like, there was one little small scene. Hey, everybody, welcome. You know, if you don't know anything about Hollywood, this is how it works. This is how it works. So you have to be an actor has to be directed, right, to do what they're supposed to do, my dumb ass. I didn't get out of the way. Right? I was like, you're like talking. You say your line and you walk the f--- off. Got it. But I just stayed in the studio, you know?

Amy I can see you. That was. That was my fault. That was my.

Jordan Carlos You know what? It's no one's fault.

Amy You're right. It's Hollywood. It's Hollywood.

Jordan Carlos It's Hollywood. Yeah, well, I had to be here.

Amy Yeah. Thank you so much for coming. It means so much to us. And we're both jointly obsessed with you, as are a lot of people in this audience.

Jordan Carlos So that's very sweet.

Amy Yes. You are the co-host of WNYC, his podcast Adulting, where you provide real life advice. And the quote reads with a heaping portion of hilarity topped with a dollop of truth.

Jordan Carlos Who wrote that.

Amy Yes. I mean, I assume it was you.

Jordan Carlos I swear to God I did not write that.

Amy Okay. Well, Michelle,.

Jordan Carlos In a showing of earnestness. And just like a missed. Misting of your heart.

Amy Yeah, well, as the audience entered tonight, we asked them to write down some questions that the three of us will give real life advice to help solve.

Grace Yeah.

Jordan Carlos I am not an expert. I do love how this guy's arms crossed when you're in the front row and non-verbal. F--- you to start the whole thing. And don't blame me. Don't say it's cold.

Amy No, we read the energy.

Jordan Carlos I do. This guy has Roman emperor energy.

Amy We got to work harder to win your love. don't worry.

Jordan Carlos Come and just relax. So everybody just open up your butthole. We're going to.

Amy Everyone release the anus, and let's just answer a couple of what we got. So first up, first up, and if you some people ask these questions, it might be out getting a drink. But if you are here and this is your question, just give us a little cheer. This first one is I was just offered my dream job in L.A., but my partner doesn't want to leave Brooklyn. Oh. How do you find balance between sacrificing and settling?

Grace Leave him.

Jordan Carlos Wow.

Amy Settling.

Grace Leave him. Drop him off leave him.

Jordan Carlos If you have your dream job. I don't know how how long you've been going out with this person, but if you have your dream job, you will work it out with that person. If relationships are all about like, you know, I've been married for 15 years and if you're married 15. Yeah, I know. Impressive. Impressive.

Amy Wow. Wow, it is 15. Yeah. 

Grace Came out the womb married.

Jordan Carlos Came out, in some cultures, that's what we do. Yeah. I think what it is all about, what it's all about is, like, just kind of like figuring out that you want to be in it and you want to be in it every day and not leaving it to chance. Then you will remain in it. If this person like lets you go, not lets you go, go do your thing. Yeah. And see where the chips fall. But make sure that you keep a line and a tethered to that person and make sure that they're a part of it and make sure that you're honest with them about what's going on. You if you like it, if you don't, if you regret it, if not, if you want to stay in it. If you don't, you know what I'm saying? Like you might go out there and figure out that your dream job wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Oh, it's time to come back. Oh, no. But you know who will be in your corner every step of the way? Brooklyn boy. Also, you didn't talk about the dark side of the f---ing person that.

Grace That is something that you do need to know.

Amy She did say settling. So it makes me think that the D is medium to small.

Jordan Carlos Is it is it shmedium? Is it like a short medium?

Grace I'm sorry, I, I mean, my resting advice is I was like, leave you. Yeah. No, but I mean, I do think it's like, first of all, you do need to know, like, how long, like, they've been together and like how deep you are in. And there are some bitches that are career bitches like myself, and there are some girls that, you know, prioritize love and relationships. And you just have to be honest about which type of girl you are, you know.

Jordan Carlos Truly truly.

Amy Yeah, that's really good advice.

Jordan Carlos I know what kind of girl I am and.

Grace I'd like to hear it.

Jordan Carlos It's like we're going to. I'm like, if I can make it happen and split myself in half, I will do it because it's worth it. Yeah. Because I feel like it's just Jordan. Cause I'm just saying. I'm just saying you. You may be remembered on this planet for the things that you do and and and make your mark artistically, creatively, in business. But if you have a love that that respect, you hold on to God.

Amy Did you write From scratch on Netflix? That is beautiful.

Grace Convict me, Jordan.

Amy That is beautiful. Wait, I got to move on to the next question. You want the next question? Yes. So question and again, give a little woo. If it's your question, I want to expand my circle and become one of those people who can get dropped into a party and befriend anyone. But it's not really in my nature. Hashtag introvert. What should I do?

Grace Oh.

Jordan Carlos The extroverted introvert?

Amy That's me. You. I'm an introvert.

Jordan Carlos You're an introvert?

Amy I'm. I'm such people would never guess because I'm like, loud and talkative. But when I get home types, how we're off. Yeah, like, I get home and I just like, right. I literally am a secret introvert. I'm such an introvert. When the pandemic, when everything shut down, I was like, This is nice. I don't have to go anywhere. I was fine. I was like, I like it in here.

Grace I was just.

Jordan Carlos Like, if that is your if that's your jam, you need to host more parties.

Amy Yeah. Oh, you're the middle of the party. If it's your party.

Jordan Carlos To be the host or, you know, better be The Great Gatsby. Have the party. Don't show up.

Grace You will be remembered forever. Very, very good advice.

Amy Yes. Okay. Next question. I'm going to do four because these are good. This one I love the most. Give a little woot if it's yours. I need money, but I don't like working.

Grace Gets you somebody rich to marry one.

Jordan Carlos That's the end of it. I need money, but they don't like their wellness shot.

Amy What's the thing that makes them feel better?

Jordan Carlos I need money, but I don't like working. That's. That sounds like the beginning of a beautiful traps to focus on, like working and.

Grace Get some rich, rich rich.

Amy Do you agree with Grace? Just get someone rich. Is that the answer.

Jordan Carlos I would say get someone rich or understand how to manipulate the market.

Grace Or be like a Fyre Festival person.

Amy Oh yes.

Grace Start a scam. Scam somebody.

Amy But scamming is work.

Grace It is work it.

Amy That guy who started we work. What a scam. But he was working. Yeah. He had to take meetings and get investors. Scamming is work.

Grace It means you have to send out like lots of emails about being a price or something.

Jordan Carlos Mostly it's just like the laws that keep scammers back. Same, whatever. Right.

Grace Yeah. So it feels like just get a rich boo.

Amy I think that might be the answer. If you like money and don't like working, get a rich bill. Yeah.

Jordan Carlos I can't. I really can't help you there because this face, I got to work, you know?

Grace No. And a very handsome face.

Amy Everyone is someone's cup of tea. You just haven't found the rich woman.

Jordan Carlos You sound like my mom. Like the African proverb. There is a lid for every pot.

Amy The lion. The lion cares for the antelope. Okay. All right. Last question for you guys. Okay. Oh, this. Oh. How do you deal with the loneliness that comes with your friends all being in relationships? Oh, wow. These are deep guys. I love these questions.

Jordan Carlos Damn. Damn. How do you deal with the loneliness that comes from your friends all being in relationships? Good question. Great question.

Amy Oh, my God.

Jordan Carlos On a long enough timeline, those relationships will end. And.

Amy Rooting for the failure.

Jordan Carlos No, I'm just. I'm.

Grace Well, 50% of marriages do end in divorce.

Jordan Carlos The other 50 percent end in death. Now. I think this like, you know, those rom coms where it's like somebody tries to stop a wedding, like they're like, I got to stop this. It's like trying to stop a bus with your face. Like, don't do it. Don't stop Americans. Marriage will stop by itself. Okay? I've seen it happen way too many times. I've seen it happen way too many times. Right? Yes. I feel like this like like do not become discouraged by that. You know, let your friends live their life. Yeah. They're going they're out doing what they're doing. You should be doing what you're like, what you're doing. Do the things that they can't.

Amy Oh, make them jel, jel.

Jordan Carlos Make them jealous. Go to a bar, you know, go to a rock climbing thing in like five in the afternoon.

Amy Yeah. I'm saying you're like, I took a nap in the middle of the day because I don't have kids.

Jordan Carlos Mean we see everything on Netflix like you're in a relationship, you have to like. Check with the person that yeah.

Jordan Carlos I watch the show so now. White Lotus was supposed to be ours and.

Amy Relish the fact that you're single. It's better out there.

Jordan Carlos Enjoy it.

Grace Well, I would say that I think that it's not.

Jordan Carlos It's all, it's all. You know what I feel like it's grass is greener on the other side. It's all about what you know. It is hard to be single. Of course.

Amy Of course. Of course. Yeah, I.

Jordan Carlos Sharing all you know, sharing everything. Sharing all the coffee, sharing all the coffee.

Amy Sharing the toilet.

Jordan Carlos Sharing the toilet, sharing the goddamn toothpaste. You know, all that and. All. This other. What's wrong with sharing toothpaste?

Amy I thought you said toothpicks. I'm so sorry. I was.

Grace That would be f---ing nasty.

Jordan Carlos Well, who has toothpicks in their house? What in the Tony Soprano's, it's. It's got to be stuff in the house.

Amy No grass is always greener.

Jordan Carlos But grass is always greener. But you know what? If you like to. If you like. Yeah. And you enjoy your own company. Yeah. As you said, Amy, I enjoy my own company. Lord, when my kids and my wife are out the house, I'm like, I'm single. I'm like Tom Cruise in that movie, like gang, gang, gang, gang. Oh, my God. My hips are so good. All right, so.

Grace The hips don't lie.

Jordan Carlos The hips don't lie. That's a lot of yoga you want to talk about your. And it. My antidote. My antidote is yoga. Wow. Yes, that's right. My wife doing it so much, I was like, I want to live a long time, too. So I got to open. Gentleman.

Amy Men die sooner.

Jordan Carlos Your hips are not open, sir.

Amy Open them up.

Jordan Carlos This guy is forward, like he;s taking a sh--.

Amy Right there.

Jordan Carlos You were totally dragged here, weren't you? Well, whose. Whose idea was it? It was her idea. Na na na na. Yeah, that's right. Know. He's like, if I endure this, maybe they will be sexy.

Amy There will be, there will be. There will be. Yeah, there will be. Guys, guys.

Jordan Carlos I know too much.

Amy This this has been an amazing wellness session from Jordan Carlos. The one. The only the me champagne.

Grace Yeah. Thank you so much, Jordan.

Jordan Carlos Amazing. Goodbye.

Amy Bye, Jordan. Thank you.

Grace Thanks for listening to The Antidote. We hope this injected a little bit of joy into your week. I know it did mine. How about you, Amy?

Amy I feel good, girl. We should do this again sometime. Oh, we'll be here next week.

Grace And in the meantime, if you'd like to follow us on social, follow me. Grace. At Gracyact. That's G-R-A-C-Y-A-C-T. 

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Grace Goodbye.

Amy And when in doubt, do it live. The Antidote is hosted by us Amy Aniobi and Grace Edwards. The show's production team includes senior producer Se'era Spragley Ricks and associate producer Jess Penzetta.

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Amy Woot woot.

In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with comedian, writer, and actor Dulcé Sloan. In a live conversation from this year’s New York Comedy Festival, Dulcé shares her favorite murder mysteries, the joys of crafting, and savoring hobbies.

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week –  owl attacks are becoming more common, and how Stacy Abrams’ loss felt like a gut punch for Black women. They also share their antidotes: a new Netflix show and waffles. 

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

Amy The world is a dumpster fire. I'm Amy.

Grace And I'm Grace.

Amy And we want to f---in help.

Grace We're comedy writers in Los Angeles, and we like to take the bad sh-- we hear and work through it together.

Amy We talk about cultural moments we love.

Grace Talk to people we adore.

Amy Crushes we have.

Grace And self-care we stan.

Amy During these trying times, we all need a show that focuses on joy.

Grace This is The Antidote. Live.

Amy That's right. That's motherf---ing right. Friends, we are very happy to share with you all our first ever live show from Brooklyn, New York, which was a part of the New York Comedy Festival on November 12.

Grace We're joined by our friends Dulce Sloan and Jordan Carlos.

Amy Not only were they the funniest and most awesome guests ever, that live energy really just gotten to all of us. It was so much fun.

Grace This is part one of the antidote live with Dulce Sloan motherf---ing Brooklyn. Thank you all for coming to our first live show. We're so excited to be here with you.

Amy We're super excited. And, you know, like for you guys who know the podcast, we always talk about our antidotes and our bummer news. But I do want to say that this live show is coming at the end of a month of New York with my best friend, Grace. Yeah. And there have been some real highlights to be in New York with you. Like our fancy dinner, we had to scarf it up.

Grace Literally bought, like everything on the menu and they're like, Can you eat all this f---ing food? I was like, Yeah.

Amy Yeah, yeah, watch me, watch it. Also also, we saw Top Dog Underdog on Broadway.

Grace We did. And let me tell you about. Yeah, yeah.

Amy Yeah, Ya-Ya can get it. He can get it. I don't know what the play was about because in my head the play was about his thighs. I don't know what I saw.

Grace But it was really good. Like I would recommend everybody see it. First of all, like Corey Hawkins, such a great actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A great actor as well. Didn't really focus on his acting because like I said.

Amy Once again, the thighs. Once again the thighs. And we also did other fancy things, like we had a little nightcap at Dumbo house one night. I saw how the other half lives, the other half being my friend Grace. Um, it was really, really fancy. But I'm really glad we had these moments together because it's a distraction from how sh---y the world is. Yeah. Yeah. So starting now, top with our bummer news of the week.

Grace The bummer news.

Amy So guys, first up is an owl attack. I don't know if anyone has seen this news, but apparently owls have been attacking people. Okay, so so this is a live show and you guys are seeing the visuals. I love that you're enjoying the visuals to our guests who are just tuning in through their ear holes. It's an owl. Attacking a man on screen literally keeps happening. Apparently in Washington, there is a woman who's been attacked by the same owl twice.

Grace Twice.

Amy Her name is Kristen Matheson, and she was walking in the woods near her house when she got attacked. And she said, quote, It felt like getting punched in the back of the head by someone wearing rings. And apparently people are saying barred owls are aggressive owls and they're highly territorial. So maybe she thought they were her woods, but they were the owls.

Grace No. Well, first of all, we still got to worry about COVID, right? We got to worry about Nazis. Right. And we got to worry about owl attacks. First of all, I want to know what she did to that owl, because that's what attacked twice. Like, did you steal that owls, man? Did you like did you, like, talk about his mom and dad? She caught that beak twice.

Amy The thing to me is like nature is clearly trying to take us out, and it just keeps happening. Like, I'm literally like Mortal Kombat. It's like, finish him because the owl is trying. And I really just think it's time for us to go.

Grace Yeah.

Amy Nature wants us out of here.

Grace It might be a wrap for the human race. 2022 is wildin. Owl attacks?

Amy Yeah, but that's not the only bit of bummer news or something else. So you guys have been following the midterm elections, obviously. Stacey Abrams lost. Yeah, Georgia. Exactly. I heard a note backstage by someone you're going to meet later, one of our guests. And honestly, for Black women, this felt like a punch in the gut. It felt like an owl attack on our hearts.

Grace Our attack on our democracy.

Amy Exactly. Yeah. Abrams lost her rematch bid in Georgia's gubernatorial race on Tuesday night, and some black women and activists have called it a devastating blow. In an opinion piece with The Daily Beast, contributing editor Goldie Taylor said that Abrams didn't look like a governor. Which makes me wonder what the f--- a governor look like. This woman, she had a blazer. She had a cold chain on.

Grace She got a gap in her tooth. She got a fabulous lip. What a bad bitch. That's all I'm thinking about.

Amy So to me, I got to be honest, I decide to because I hate to lose. But you know what? I hate more being insulted every day. Every day she's in the spotlight. She gets insulted. And I'm tired of that, honestly. Stacey, so good for the race.

Grace I mean, honestly, she saved democracy. I mean, like, I remember, like, in Georgia f---ing blue. I know she turned Georgia blue. She has done so much to, like, register voters. And the only reason that these new school wild ass Republicans are not, like, fully in control of everything is due to this queen. And what does she get lost to? Brian Kemp. Y'all want Brian Kemp again? Again? Yeah. That was so f---ing sad outside that day.

Amy Yeah. So how do you feel after discussing this bummer news, Grace?

Grace Not good. I mean, I'm looking for owls. I don't want to catch nobody's speak. And Stacey Abrams is not the governor of Georgia. What she should be.

Amy Yeah, I agree. I agree.

Grace So you know what? Let's get into this antidote.

Amy Yes, it is. So for people who are new to this but about to be true to this, this is the segment where we tell you about the culture we consumed and things we did this week that made us feel better about the bummer news. So, Grace, I'd love to know what was your antidote?

Grace Okay, well, it was it was a rough week this week because like there I was stressed about these midterm elections because everybody's like, yeah, it's going to be a red wave. And I'm like, okay, are they going to bring slavery back? I don't know. Like, I keep getting worse, right? Like, you know what I'm saying? I was so, like, scared this week, so I wanted to, like, flush my brain out with something good. So I saw on Netflix there was a show called From Scratch. Oh, my God. Tell them about them that scratched my itch. It's basically starring Zoe Saldana, created by Attica Locke and Tenby Locke, who are sisters. Isn't that f---ing cute? They, like, created a show together based on Tempe's book of the same name about a true story about her, like falling in love with this chef in Italy and making spaghetti king. I know.

Amy And you better twirl that linguini.

Grace He made her spaghetti. He did make her some other making spaghetti and he did other things, too. So it was so delightful because, like, it was just so sweet. It was like, beautifully written. It was well-shot. It just gave me what I needed. I love comedy. Obviously, the only thing that I love more than comedy is people falling up. I love. So it was really just a delight to see. And I mean, there was so much yummy food. I went to Italy for the first time with this bitch last year.

Amy Yes, she did. Yeah, that's right. We're gross. We travel together and we do everything together.

Grace And I don't know, it just really was beautiful escapism. And I know that there's cancer later, but.

Amy Spoil. I haven't seen it. What!

Grace I didn't get to the cancer part yet. So I got to the only the happy.

Amy Who dies? Who?

Grace Maybe nobody dies. I don't know.

Amy Who dies? Not the Black woman.

Grace No, no, no. So, I don't know. It was just really fine. I was drinking some wine. I cried. Happy tears.

Amy Very Italian of you.

Grace Yeah, very like. So that was definitely my antidote this week of just crying, watching. So leave it. Still to fall in love with an Italian man. 

Amy That was lovely. Loved it. Yeah. Italians love Black women. That's like a thing. Oh, they made a show about it. It's called, like, from Italy with Love. And it's just like women being like, I'm looking for my Italian king and a lot of Italian men being like, I love your lips are a little problematic get and where you fit in. Okay I will imports.

Grace Well, no, but I didn't I didn't get any Italian love when I was there.

Amy So we got to go back. We got to go back. We got to go back.

Grace Got to go back and say from scratch, you heard of it? I want it. So what was your antidote this week?

Amy So last night I had like a real New York night and, you know, I came here for work, so and I'm very if you all know me, I'm a double Virgo. Like, I'm all about my work. I'm like, I want to prep. I want to do a good job. I want to be working. And so I hadn't gone out, out like we've had our fancy dinner or whatever the f---, but we haven't like gone out in New York. And last night I went out with a friend and that's not even the antidote part. And she's here in the audience and she's going to hear the story. And she didn't know that this happened, but that's her. Give me I'm about to tell you a story. Basically, we went out for a very early like grandma dinner, like we were trying to be responsible, have dinner at like 5 p.m. and then it rolled into another spot and then we're doing an orange wine and then we stumble. I got this. I don't know where it entered my head. I think we're sitting in front of a grocery store and there's an ad for waffles in the window. And I was like, I want a waffle. And then my friend looked up a waffle spot, pies and dice, and we walked over to pies and pies and they were out of waffles. And I was there in my class.

Grace I mean, you had one job, pies and thighs.

Amy My slightly drunk splendor. Like you have pies and you have thighs, but you don't have waffles. And they were like, It'll be about 20 minutes. Like we're making them. And I was like, Well, I can't wait. So my friend. And I said, goodnight. I waved goodnight. I got in my little car and I drove home. And guess how long that car ride was? Well, it was about 20 minutes. So I got home and I just thought to myself, Well, what if I went on DoorDash and looked to see if the waffles were ready? Jimmy The waffles were ready. Apart from pies and thighs, and it wasn't enough to complete an order. So I also ordered a single catfish in a single biscuit and a full. And then I had a meal. And so they delivered it. And I ate this waffle and fell asleep on my couch eating this waffle. 

Grace Oh, my God.

Amy And that was my antidote. Sometimes you need to doordash happiness to your. That was my answer. So stay tuned. You'll hear more from our live show right after this break. Our guest is a hilarious and dope ass comedian, writer and actor. She's a correspondent on Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Rolling Stone recently hailed her as one of the top ten comedians you need to know, declaring, quote, She speaks and they simply fall in line behind you.

Grace Yes, Queen.

Amy Please welcome one of the stars of the Fox series, The Great North and costar of my co-host movie Jodi out next year. Dulce f---ing Sloan. It's nighttime here in Brooklyn, and we're here to learn about your antidote.

Dulce Sloan So I have a craft room in my house. And, uh, recently I was like, because I enjoy the crafting and I was looking on the TikTok and part of it I saw like this thing called a knitting machine.

Grace And knitting is like, it does it for you.

Dulce Sloan Yeah. Because like I had I not a knit, I know how to crochet, but I also can't dedicate six years of my life to making one scarf. No, no.

Amy You're too busy for that. Like you said, you won't see your son truly.

Dulce Sloan So I don't know who lives a lifestyle where they can make a scarf in less than four years. But I am not that person. So basically it's this machine, just like 48 hooks on it and it's just a knob that you turn. It was like some 40, 60 bucks. I won pansies and so I made like a knitted cap in like 20 minutes was.

Amy That should take 20 weeks, right?

Dulce Sloan Yeah, it does. Like a hundred rows of knitting. That's so cool. And like 20 minutes.

Amy What were the colors?

Dulce Sloan When I started with. Because I bought like, this really pretty like a teal kind of yarn, the.

Grace Ahhh.

Dulce Sloan Go to. And then I just make like this really long, long, long scarf. But I bought like a lot of these little, like, poofs. So I was like, F---, I got a little clothes that you put on.

Amy Pom pom pom.

Dulce Sloan Pom pom thing, but like the little fauz fur ones.

Amy Yeah.

Dulce Sloan I got those. And then one of my friends was like, ah, like, I'll make you a hat. She's like, I got to have it. The silk glasses, though.

Grace So you worried about the pearls?

Dulce Sloan I hear you. I hear you. So I got some of those really, like, long, like, bonnets. Yeah. So now I have to figure out how to sew, though. I mean, I could, so. So I got to just figure out how with the yarn and everything, I'm going to get like this. So I guess apparently when I start making satin lined knit can.

Amy Wait a second. No, that's really dope.

Dulce Sloan Because of life. But yeah, there is that then a very silly thing. So I enjoy murder mysteries. Okay, but I don't like the true crime ones.

Amy You like the fake one?

Dulce Sloan I don't want to know that somebody died. I want to know somebody like that. Like, oh, this person's dead. And somebody went.

Amy Cut, and then they went and got lunch.

Grace And they were not dead. They just had.

Dulce Sloan They were not dead. But I don't like the really intense emotional.

Amy I can't do that.

Dulce Sloan I can't do it too much. So I was trying to find a New Yorker, like I started watching Murder. She wrote Homicide was f---ed up. Poppycock, Peacock. I won't watch a murder she wrote for the past year, right?

Amy Yeah.

Dulce Sloan And Ms. lansbury. Yes. R.I.P. Met the Lord. Yes, she did. All of a sudden, now all a murder. She rose behind a paywall. No.

Amy Peacock what.

Dulce Sloan I'm in like the seventh show is like 15 f---ing seasons. So it was really for like 1987 to like 22. I had no f---ing clue. Right. It was on for most of my life.

Amy Yes. And so I watched it as a child.

Dulce Sloan Right. And saw that because I remember when I was like, I want another show to watch because I watched like the little like British shows or whatever. But I'm going to British shows get too intense. So I'm just like, first of all, turn the volume up on this f---ing show.

Amy First of all.

Dulce Sloan Am I  the only person watch the British shows like because they're very quiet. They're very.

Grace Very quickly and very quietly.

Dulce Sloan It's very quiet, very darkly lit. I'm like, I even know the race of this person who's speaking. There's all this bitches blond. With all the information that I.

Grace Spicy white, you don't know.

Dulce Sloan Right, listen. And also, can we retire spicy white? Because I guess because spicy whites are just white people trying to disassociate themselves from the bad white. Oh, I.

Amy Think about it that way. For me, it's any time I see someone who's got a little olive tone.

Dulce Sloan Naw, it's a set up. The Italians also colonized? Yeah.

Amy No, that's true. That's true.

Dulce Sloan You ever heard of Ethiopia? Yeah. The Mali guy. Yeah. Yeah, the Portuguese. Brazil.

Amy Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a Jewish friend from Ethiopia and everyone was like, How are you Jewish? And she was like, Bitch, we're the originals. Colonialism.

Dulce Sloan It was like, That's how we got Ethiopian Jews. It's like the Ethiopian Jews was like the 12 tribes, man. They were right there. They were like, Oh, Israel's nice. But what, what is happening in Africa, from what I hear from Ethiopian Jews are like not we're from the first like the first 12 dudes. Yeah, that was us murder mysteries.

Amy Then what are the ones?

Dulce Sloan So I found a very silly one. So I have now added the Hallmark mystery movies. Zero. So my.

Amy Wait. So those are religious?

Grace So you have to like pay for that. It's like a hallmark plus.

Dulce Sloan It's like six bucks. I have six dolalrs.

Amy There are so many pluses.

Dulce Sloan So you have to say to yourself, Should I add this show? You're like, bitch, you have six times. You will always have $6 if you spend more than that at a sandwich at your local corner store. Yeah, you have $6, bitch. And so they have all these they have all these murder mysteries, but it's the same f---ing formula, cause it's so it's a woman. They're usually white. I found one with Holly Robinson Peete on it, and I was.

Amy Like, Well.

Dulce Sloan You know, where she is? So they all have, like, a professional job.

Grace And they're jogging.

Dulce Sloan No, no, no. These bitches don't jog. They're running businesses. They don't have time to jog. And so it's the same formula I, I've watched like the garage sale mysteries where. Lori Loughlin. Yeah.

Amy Lori Loughlin is bad.

Dulce Sloan Oh, her and her friend. We hate her. Mark, I have no qualms about this woman. Wasn't my kid, so no qualms. This lady couldn't give a sh--. Her and her friend owned an antique store. It's called the Garage Sale Mysteries because you would go to garage sales and get like, sh--, the governor antique store. And then she would find something like, Oh my God, I've got this antique camera. There's a picture of a murder on here. That murder just happened. I got to solve it. So it's.

Grace A picture of a murder.

Dulce Sloan So now her husband. And then the first of all, the kids keep changing the actor. So the actor, the player. Yeah. So they.

Dulce Sloan The actors that play the kids keep getting progressively worse or if I'm watching the show out. Of order or all those like they're. All an hour and a half long. So it's basically like a f---ing movie. So to like this isn't it's either I can binge watch. I would in my mind since it's a TV show, it's not like a movie. So like watching a movie seems like a dedication to time, but like watching an hour long TV show. I just. David So I watch those shows, those like garage sale, mystery murder. She Bakes is based on the bakery.

Grace Did the murder happen at the office?

Dulce Sloan No but a rival baker did die in the kitchen after she helped this guy and then there's murder. She bakes. And then there's the chick that has, like, a flower shop whose work I think is Brooke Shields. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's like Alison Sweeney. Brooke Shields. Holly Robinson Peete is like a cook on. She has like a cooking segment on a TV show, but they also in a restaurant, there's that sh--. And then I'm like, Right, there's that. And then Korean dramas is the other thing that I watch.

Amy Wait, but I love this. First of all, I love TV that works on a formula like I'm Nigerian and Nigerian films. Like for the longest time before, like Nollywood really blew up. They all had a formula. It was always like a man gets possessed by a witch and then he cheats on his wife. And the while we used to.

Dulce Sloan Like when we moved back to Atlana, we lived with Nigerians. And I remember like I don't speak Yoruba, so I know what the f--- is going on, but there was, but like, I know like, oh we don't like this later.

Amy Yeah.

Dulce Sloan That I couldn't figure out. Also I don't know how they were all in a village and it was an all white and it it's f---ing spotless. I was watching this woman. She walked out. I'm seeing a woman walk out of a hut. And they're in the village because they're going to visit family or some sh--. Yeah, everyone's in white. It's immaculate.

Amy It doesn't make any sense. The wind is blowing. There's a lot of dust.

Dulce Sloan There are no floors. And these bitches are in the cleaners. I'm like, God bless.

Amy Nollywood mansion.

Dulce Sloan Bring your skills over to the great USA. Very because I have a washing machine and my weight ain't never been that sharp that you can feel the crystal air. But yeah, that in Korean dramas and I've been watching Korean dramas since I was in high school.

Amy I'm obsessed with both of these antidotes. The fact that you are first of all, you have a craft room and you're crafting and you're sewing and you're making things. I'd love to know when the Etsy store opened, like when.

Dulce Sloan Listen. I used to have a jewelry business.

Amy Yeah.

Grace And what did you make?

Dulce Sloan So, like feather earrings. I was the first one to start.

Amy Okay. Wait. That was the thing, that was a moment.

Dulce Sloan That was a big moment. I started making my mom and my mother was like, because my mother always had businesses. She has a clothing business named after me. All these other sh-- I've been like. And my first business when I was like, nine. I'm very tired because I've been working for 30 years. Yeah. And so and I'm not 40. It's not fair, but this man's not having to sweep me away. We got to figure this sh-- out. And I mean, you hope, but hope's hard. So I would make all this handmade Legos, like beadwork and stuff like that, and I would go to different things around Atlanta and sell jewelry. And then I used to do crafts at kid's birthday parties, so like scavenger hunts, all kinds of sh--, and then at the same and then still having a day job, still doing stand up. So acting all of that sh--. Yeah. So I'm just, I'm tired.

Amy You're like, I'm not going to do the jewelry store. It's for you now.

Dulce Sloan I thought, because, like, I had a bunch of jewelry that I had made cause I started getting into U.V. resin, and I was like, I could sell this as merch. Then I'm like.

Amy Wow. That's that's the best part about a real answer is that it's just for you.

Dulce Sloan It's just, yeah, like, I have this whole crowd from, like, a, like, the silliest thing. Like I made like these like every year for my manager's birthday, I'll do like, a vintage of him. So, like, the year, like two years ago, I'm like a doll out of him. Yeah.

Amy Oh, no, that. Wait, what? Voodoo. What?

Dulce Sloan Now I'm saying they invited the Holy Ghost. Don't play me.

Amy So he didn't, like, clip his hair and then make it out of him? No. Gotcha. Okay. Sorry, sorry. I heard.

Dulce Sloan I hear you. It's a little because I did one for my nephew too, so that could be like a little felt doll out of him. I used to work at like my last day job was a stucco supply company, like construction materials. So like, I made like a picture of him out of, like, different colors of stucco just from the guys in the back.

Amy Yeah. Um.

Dulce Sloan But it's funny because he's Jewish and he had a little Jewish afro, so the dude in the back was his new black clothes are like, so you've been a, you have a black man, a picture itself. I was like, That's not what's happening. I see why you would think that I actually for page stucco, you need to calm down. Um, so then like from I've done like parlor beard, uh, vinyl all kind of like every year I just come up with like a different is a stupid thing that I started myself. I did like a big cross-stitch thing. I have one time oh wow that it faces. So it's just like it's a face.

Amy I know but that's our too is like not doing the face is is of that is a choice a choice like choice.

Dulce Sloan But like so I have a cricket as well. So this year I was able to like I took a picture of him and then did the image of it.

Amy Do you mean where an actual cricket or a cricket phone or what do you mean the cricket either?

Dulce Sloan Okay.

Grace We are not crafty bitches, you know. We don't know the terminology.

Dulce Sloan I hear you because I said cricket. Somebody was like, Yeah, like am I am I right off the bat? So no, there's no magical creature at my house.

Amy You don't have a little Jiminy.

Grace I was like, Jimmy.

Amy All right tell me what it is. Go.

Dulce Sloan It is. It's a so basically it's like a they call it a is a cricket like crap machine. So basically there's a computer program that you can use to create like different images and then you can either cut them out or draw them on whatever material you want to see, whether it's because, like, I'm bad at drawing.

Amy Yeah, yeah, me too.

Dulce Sloan So, like this year when I did, like, the thing of him, it was like, I guess it's giving like Andy Warhol because I had, like, this marble paper that was like four different colors, this marble paper. And then I had like I was trying to, it was Shrinky Dinks, but it didn't work so that like four suckers are hard to use. It's an ad for different colors of the construction paper. That was the main color out of the marble paper. And then so it drew the image of him on the paper and I cut it out and I just colored it. And so it's like a a square thing of him and like in like, primary colors.

Amy Thank you. You are a woman of many talents.

Dulce Sloan Yeah, thank you. I'm very tired.

Amy Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. You know what? Yeah, yeah. I feel like.

Dulce Sloan I mean, I tried. We tried to pitch like a crafting show with an Amy Poehler show was our yet. And I was like, f---.

Grace Making things.

Amy Wait a year, make it again.

Dulce Sloan Make it easier, do it again. I mean, it's great, but I'm just like, but what if it was black people? Yeah.

Amy But like lit a lot of a lot of things. What if it was Black people? Right.

Dulce Sloan Cause I often cause, like, honestly and what I really want to do, because, like, I watch all of these, like, murder mystery shows. Yes. They call, like, the cozy mysteries, the best that the whole like the genre of the book. So you have three you're like and I wonder.

Amy A blanket with your tea being like who got murdered.

Dulce Sloan Just holding with two hands like, oh, who did it?

Grace I'm safe here. Right.

Dulce Sloan So they have like 20, literally like 15. They got the one for the bitch. You play DJ on Full House.

Amy She be out here getting murdered.

Dulce Sloan I don't know. No. She's trying to solve the crimes.

Amy She's of solving the murders of murder.

Dulce Sloan And like Miranda Teagarden or some wild sh--, I don't know that that would be shady. And everyone I'm saying is that they have like, you can go like this, look like the crossword murders. The matchmaking works. Yeah, after like 20 of these shows, but there's only one with a black woman. And then her love interest is Rick Fox and all.

Amy And I want to start crafting with Dulce Sloan. I want this in my life.

Dulce Sloan This and we have to work on it because I want to be on my f---ing Scooby-Doo, Sherlock Holmes, Nancy Drew bullsh--.

Grace And we want to see that sh--.

Dulce Sloan Roll up to your neighborhood being like, I'm not sure who did it, but I have an idea.

Grace And then you go and interview the wrong person first, right?

Dulce Sloan Yes. She's out here looking for clues. And then there's my will. They won't. They love interest.

Grace Yes.

Dulce Sloan Because like the one with Lori Loughlin, like that was the only one where someone's married. Yeah, all the other ones. And they keep having these B and C storylines where her kids that are very useless.

Amy We don't care about the kids. We care about the woman who's solving the mystery. Yes, we care about the women solving the mysteries.

Dulce Sloan Right? So, like, I love her, but I'm just like, I'll give a f--- if your son that passes math test. You killed Pastor John.

Amy And that's the question to take home tonight, ladies. Who killed Pastor Justin. Thank you so much, you guys, for coming and seeing The Antidote Live.

Grace Oh, yeah. We hope this injected a little bit of joy into your week. I know it did mine. How about you, Amy?

Grace Yeah, it definitely did. We should do this again sometime. We should do this again. Live sometime.

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On this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace share songs that score the defining moments of their lives, from Beyonce’s Church Girl to Fiona Apple’s Sleep to Dream to Smokie Norful’s Still Say, Thank You.  

Amy and Grace also share their bummer news of the week – a debate over Disney’s first plus-sized protagonist, and TikTokers taping their mouths shut while sleeping for “beauty rest.” They also share their antidotes: impulsive shopping and pre-made cocktails.

This week’s Creative Tap-In: 

“I remember being really young and having this voice inside that told me to trust my gut. And my gut has been really, really strong in my life. It’s pretty vocal and it leads me.”

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

Amy The world is a dumpster fire. I'm Amy.

Grace And I'm Grace.

Amy And we want to f---in help.

Grace We're comedy writers in Los Angeles, so we're taking those bad news lemons and making them into lemonade. Thanks, Beyonce.

Amy We talk about cultural moments we love.

Grace Talk to people we adore.

Amy Crushes we have.

Grace And self-care we stan.

Amy During these trying times. We all need a show that focuses on joy.

Grace This is The Antidote. Hi, everyone. Welcome to another week of the antidote. Yeah, I'm. And I'm a real zippy this morning. I had my go go juice.

Amy Yeah, clearly. No., that's perfect. But, you know what's so funny is sort of like such a pretty day in New York that it does kind of feel like you're in a musical. Like, I woke up and there's just, like, sun shining, and I'm like, Oh.

Grace I know. And you're leaving me this week. Amy, I'm so sorry. Amy's going back to Los Angeles, and then I'm still here working on this show until the beginning of the summer. I love this show, but it's been so nice having you direct, Amy. It's been so fun.

Amy It's wonderful getting to work with my bestie. I'm like, This has been such a treat. It so bittersweet to be done.

Grace I know. And then, like, everybody's just. Like, yuck. GROSS.

Amy There was one day I bet no one on crew has ever seen that. One day I got to set and I just. walked over to Grace and held her like, why is the director hugging? This producer was like, okay.

Grace And then like, we literally like sang together on set. And then I told all the actors, I was like, You treat her good because this is my friend. They were going to treat her good any way. But I was. Just like warning people. Like warning people just to, like, be f---ing cool. My friend's coming, but everybody was wonderful. So it was a really lovely month having you here. Our offices literally next door to each other. It was very adorable.

Amy It was super adorable. And stay tuned later if you want more of this adorable energy, because we have a storytime segment today and Grace and I get deep talking about friendship.

Grace Yes. So, Amy, you know, we got to do this bummer news to get to our antidotes, right?

Amy Yeah, I sure do. Oh, my God. Starting now, up top with our bummer news of the week. Well, first of all, guys, I'm sure a few of you have seen that there's a new plus size animated film coming out from Disney. It's called Reflect. It's a two minute Disney short featuring a plus sized ballerina who struggles with her body image. And there's been a lot of debate about this film. And I have to say, when I saw a plus size ballerina, I, too, was happy. And then I saw that the story was about her body image. And I felt really conflicted. And there's a quote from MSNBC opinion columnists Evette Dionne who said on Twitter, quote, Not a plus size heroine in an emotional film about body dysmorphia, please give fat people new stories. This is exhausting. Other Twitter users called for Disney to put a plus size protagonist in a feature film that was not about their size at all one where the protagonist was happy with their body. And to me, I got to say, I kind of agree. Like, I'm like, Oh, yay, Disney progressive. You have a plus size lead, but it's also a little first thought and it just goes back to that thing. Like Hollywood loves trauma porn, like the first movie. Like there are just so many things where they think they're being progressive, but they always go towards what's the norm core lens through which you would see this person's existence. Oh yeah, being unhappy that they're fat. And it's like, maybe we could be more progressive than that.

Grace We all know that there are so many complicated stories about women that are plus size that don't have anything to do with their bodies. Why must we always do this? Why do we do this to black people? Why do we do this to plus size people? Why do we do this to anybody who is not like, quote unquote, a white guy? Like, why do we always have to go to a place where it has to be about the thing that makes you different from that? And also, it's disappointing. I thought it was a feature film. Like, it's also disappointing that it's a short. They're like, nobody's going to want to see a fat body moving around for a whole 90 minutes. So like three or 4 minutes. So I mean, it's unsurprising, but it's a bummer.

Amy But that's not the only bit of bummer news. There's also this new Tik Tok trend that got reported on CNN. It's called mouth tapping. So the idea is to stop mouth breathing during your sleep by taping your lips shut. TikTok users are touting it, saying it helps with quote unquote beauty, sleep. And you know, we do know that mouth breathing can lead to snoring and excessive thirst at night, as well as dry mouth and bad breath in the morning. It's also been linked to gum disease and a misalignment of the upper and lower teeth. But taping the mouth shut to stop mouth breathing can be incredibly dangerous for those with obstructive sleep apnea. Also mouth breathing might not be the best practice while sleeping, but there are other remedies and tips for better sleep. To me, it sounds like these TikTok users are saying not breathing makes you skinny. I'm like some trends aren't worth following. Can we get off TikTok like we got off WebMD? Talk to a real doctor, please.

Grace Yeah, here's the thing. Tiktok's gonna get somebody killed. Okay, like.

Amy Oh, yes, if it hasn't already.

Grace Like, I'm pretty sure it's already happened, but, like, people doing things for TikTok, I think part of it is just like coming up with hacks so you can go viral. I feel like that that is part of what the TikTok culture has done is like everybody is trying to get their TikTok to be sent around the world. So they're coming up with weirder and weirder things in order to try.

Amy Why are we trying to hack breathing.

Grace Get attention, cause I was just like, why would you think that putting tape on your mouth, first of all, that doesn't even sound comfortable to sleep with tape on your mouth. And yeah, what if you have a cold or hear something that helps you? I don't know. I just I don't know why people would listen to somebody who's not a doctor about a medical problem.

Amy And Tik Tok has gotten people killed, that Tide pod challenge. People were eating Tide pods and they died. And then what's the one with the crate challenge?

Grace Yeah. People fell.

Amy People really hurt themselves.

Grace Yeah, people fell off of that.

Amy F---ed up their whole spinal area.

Grace Yeah. So I'm just like, I don't know, it's. The Internet can be wonderful, but sometimes Internet can be harmful.

Amy Come on, TikTok. Just stick to the cuff it challenge, please. Like, let's just keep dancing.

Grace Yeah, just keep dances. Or I also love, like, financial tik tok and I love like.

Amy I don't know, some of those people are bad advice.

Grace Social justice Tik Tok at times, you know. So there's things that Tik Tok can be helpful and and ideas and spreading. But not this one.

Amy Not this.

Grace Not this one. Do you not take your mouth shut, people.

Amy How do you feel after talking about this bummer news, Grace?

Grace Weird. How about you, Amy?

Amy Same. Same.

Grace Okay, let's get into the antidote.

Amy So as you know, listeners, this is a segment where we tell you about the culture we consumed and things we did this week that made us feel better about the bummer. News. So what was your antidote this week, Grace?

Grace So in my in my older years, well, I'm not that old, I guess, but I decided like a year ago to get two new piercings in my ears. So for most of my life, I've just had one piercing on each year that I got when I was a baby. Because Caribbean people like you come out the womb.

Amy Yeah, same. All my baby pictures, my ears are already pierced.

Grace Exactly. My ears more pierced at birth. So I never felt how it felt to get your ears pierced or anything. But I've just been you know, I've been getting more into like fashion and like things in the past few years. And so I've just been following some of these girls and I see all these earrings decorating all up and down their ear and it looks so beautiful. So I think I'm going to get myself some extra holes. So that sound weird. But in my ears. But you know, I have not had enough earrings like of certain kinds that like fit in those upper holes. Like, I like to do dangly one sometimes on the bottom, but the other ones, like it's more for like Studs or Huggies and stuff like that. So I had just gotten my nails done for our live show and I wasn't ready to go home because I've been living like in this Airbnb that doesn't feel like it's my house. So sometimes I don't always want to be in there all the time. Yeah. So I was just like it was raining and I was just like, I'm not ready to go home. Like, what can I do to kill time? Should I go to Sephora and like slather myself in creams or should I like something else? I was like, You know what? I do need some more earrings for my other little holes that I put in my head. So I said, Oh my goodness, let me just quickly do a yo and go and see if I can get myself some new little earrings. And so I found this place, Gorjana, in Brooklyn. Wow.

Amy Wow. That's a great name. Gorjana

Grace Gorjana. And I think they have an online store, too. But I was like, let me wander over there. And this very lovely girl came up to me, very sweet. And she, like, welcome me and she's like, What are you looking for today? And I told her what I wanted and she was just so helpful. And she pulled out all these earrings and she, like, cleaned them off with, like, alcohol swabs. And she was, you know, we were chit chatting. She was talking about some weird comedy guy that she was dating and that I was sorry. I work in comedy. And then we. Kind of talking about comedy a little bit. Turns out that she had gone to school for dramatic writing, so she was so happy to meet me at like a working writers, like a very adorable black girl. So she's just like another black woman who's actually done what I want to do. So that was really sweet. It was just really a lovely impromptu little shopping spree that, like, turned into a much nicer thing because this girl who helped me was so sweet. And we got to talk about comedy and we got to talk about writing. And I don't know, it just turned into just, like, a lovely little fab. And then I was just feeling so good. I was on my way to the train. I saw this place that had, like a donut ice cream sandwich it there. And I was just like, Can I try? What if you're totally ice cream sandwiches? And they're like, It's amazing. And they were also so nice and that's why you like. And I was like, I'm a little one, and they're like, We hope you enjoy it. I was like. What is going on? Like, why is everybody being so sweet and nice on a rainy day in Brooklyn? So it was just a really you know, I was not I had a very bad day the day before. And so it was just so nice that these like two like strangers ladies, like, helped me get some beautiful new earrings for my new holes. And then also I had a lovely little matcha donut ice cream sandwich, and it was. I went home and I was very happy.

Amy Yay.

Grace So what was your antidote this week?

Amy My antidote this week was very, very Amy. It was drinking. But I'll say specifically why? What kind of drinking? So I have a kind of a ritual when I'm in production. And, you know, I've only directed a few episodes of TV now, but what I started doing because I like to unwind with alcohol in the evenings, but during production I don't drink like it's just there's two. Yeah, you need good sleep and whatever. But what I started doing was like I would come home from SAT and I would like drink a half glass of wine and then take a shower. And then if I was still feeling like that, like all rattled from the day, then I would drink another half glass of wine and then go to bed. And that was like a thing that I was doing in L.A. and it's sort of like, I can't go out with my friends, I can't go have drinks. But here's a little something I can do. Well, in New York, I was like, Oh, I want to have a cocktail this one night. And I just didn't have the ingredients. I'm not home. So I ended up using a delivery service and I ordered those like on the rocks, like pre-made cocktails, and I got the old fashioned one. And the thing is, it's a small bottle, but it's like four drinks. It's like it's four servings. So I was like, Oh, this is my drink for the week, you know? So I was able to have like a cocktail at night and put a little ice cube in it and like, enjoy it. And I was just like, Oh, this is really nice. I'm not at home and I like the practice there are. I can't make that many drinks. Yeah. And really the only drink that I always have the ingredients for is a Sazerac, because the Sazerac is my favorite cocktail. So I always have those ingredients. But there's something that I like, kind of like the way I like baking or just the method of doing something and it turning out right every time. I really like because so much of our days as filmmakers, as writers is very chaotic and things are outside of your control. And you can do what you can't. You do your best, but sometimes you can't control things. So sometimes I want to come home and have something just like small in control that I can do. And in l.a it's make myself a cocktail. But here, having this pre-made cocktail kind of gave me an a surprisingly the same feeling. Yeah. And even though I didn't make it, but I was, like, proud of myself for buying it. I guess I was like, I fixed it. I wanted to make a cocktail. I don't have the tools. I don't want to buy all those ingredients. Let me make a pre-made cocktail.

Grace Yeah, I mean, it's like a ritual. Yeah, like a ritual that comforts you at home, so, yes, it's hard to be away from home for a long period of time. So I'm glad you did something that made you kind of feel like home for a minute. And it was very what a classy cocktail. It old fashioned.

Amy And old fashioned. But I will say, even though this isn't an ad on the rocks, has a lot of different cocktails and I just look them up and they make like daiquiris and mai tais and aviation's and cosmopolitans and margaritas like they have so many. But I'm a bourbon girl, so I like my dark, dark whiskey and liquor. So I went that way. But it was kind of cool to think of like, Oh, if I was ever in a situation where like I had friends coming over and I didn't have the time to do something, I can just get these, you know? And I'm like, and I've drunk them before and I've used them before, but like for some reason this week it just took on a whole new meaning because it was like self-care. It was like, Oh, this is a reminder of what it feels like to be home is to make your favorite cocktail. So that was my antidote this week, and I have one more little sip left that I might have tonight.

Grace Oh, snap. I love it. I feel like both of us did some sort of, like, luxurious little. Yeah. Self-care this week. So me getting some earrings and having a little conversation. You having a little cocktail. I love it.

Amy Exactly. So if you guys tried any of our antidotes at home, share them with us using the hashtag. That's my antidote. Or leave us a voicemail at 8336843683. We'll be back after the break. Welcome to Story Time.

Grace Yes. The segment of the show where we're going to ask each other a question you've never spoken about before and who knows where the conversation will go. Amy, you ready?

Amy Yeah, let's do it.

Grace Okay. So in the nineties and even in the early 2000, soundtracks to movies were a huge part of film. Yeah, I kind of miss that.

Amy I do too.

Grace You don't really get soundtracks like, you know, Waiting to exhale, boomerang, love and basketball, you know?

Amy Oh, my God, City of Angels. And I don't want the world to see me.

Grace To see me. I mean, even with, like, I remember, like, early Grey's Anatomy, like, they would put out the soundtrack. And I used to get that. So.

Amy Insecure soundtrack.

Grace And insecure I think Insecure was kind of like the last show that really did that. I'm like, God, what a beautiful show we worked on.

Amy Self brag.

Grace Anyway. So with that said, Amy, what songs would be the soundtrack to your life? What is the Amy Aniobi soundtrack?

Amy Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's a good f---ing question. There are some I mean. Well, I'll say this. I'll preface by saying, like, I'm from Texas and I was raised in a very white suburb. So I think my soundtrack would be a mix of different types of music, different types of genres. The first song that came to mind was Beyonce's If I Were a Boy. That song like Hit Me in the gut because I'm like, If I were a boy, the things I would get away with. Not because it's- and I also really love the one that she does, which I'm Amanda feminist. Flawless. Yeah. You wake up. La la la la la. That would be on the soundtrack of my life. That's like I wake up and I'm flawless. I also think I would have kiss me by sixpence none the richer that came to my mind. Because I'm I'm like, I wouldn't say I'm a romantic. Like, I. I don't really watch rom coms or love rom coms that much. And I typically am not a super romantic person, but when I find my person, I'm like very attached. So that song always made me think, one day, maybe I'll have someone.

Grace I know. I love that. Like, first of all, that song kiss me. Had a choke hold on everyone.

Amy Yes.

Grace Just like beautiful. Like, her voice is so, like, perfect in that sort of moody nineties way of like, where a lot of those artists were like, Yeah.

Amy Yeah, exactly. I just thought like, you know, and I'm like, What are the lyrics one more time? I feel like Ariana Grande Day like took the mantle of that because when she thinks she's very like, I don't know, there is moon songs and I'm like, She's crazy. She don't know what she's singing. But yeah.

Grace I mean, just like very romantic, very vibey and that like nineties, like white woman way.

Amy Yes, exactly. I also speaking of nineties, white women, I think I would have a Fiona Apple song. Or a Tori Amos song like one of those.

Grace I've been a bad bad girl. Yeah. For me as I tell you how I feel. But you don't care that song. Sleep to dream.

Amy Yeah, it's. Oh, I just love a witchy white woman.

Grace Yes.

Amy Yeah. And then I think for my fifth, I think this is my fifth song. I feel like it would be. Wait, wait. This is so weird. But I remember the song was that Monday. Da da da da da da. On Tuesday.

Grace And then I went, Yeah, yeah. Is that Craig David?

Amy Yeah, yeah. I think that might be my number five or Wyclef Jean God, until November because those songs that are about passages of time, I think that's what I'm looking for is that R&B passage of time, like, we're going through it. I'm shocked. I didn't say a rap song. I'm like, Wait, is there a rap song I would choose?

Grace Yea I know you like rap songs about working hard.

Amy I Oh, my God, you're absolutely. Wait. I have a playlist of rap songs about working hard. I'm going to pick my last song. This playlist. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, you're absolutely right. I can't believe I didn't things there. It's literally called work hard. Formations on there flawless is on there. I said those but then it might be sweat pants by Childish Gambino. Don't be mad that I'm doing me better than you doing you. I'm like I love that song, but I have a few. I also love Bank by Earth Kang Ha ha ha. All the way to the bank. So yeah. So yeah. A rap song about working hard would definitely be on there. I think that's my soundtrack. It's like.

Grace I mean.

Amy Wanting love, working hard. Wishing I had more power and authority. That's the Amy Aniobi story.

Grace No. Like, my favorite rap song about working hard is nothing can stop me. I'm all the way up yeah. Yeah. That's my sh--.

Amy Okay, okay. Enough about me. Now I want to know about your soundtrack, Grace. Like what songs with you on the soundtrack of your life?

Grace I mean, it's just so hard because though I like went in and I looked at my top 25, most played.

Amy Oh.

Grace On my Apple Music. But there's some that are not even there. So let me start with some that are childhood memories for me. So same old G by Ginuwine.

Amy Oh my God. Not Ginuwine. I almost said Pony. And then I was like, Amy, don't you dare.

Grace No, no. It's just like. Like I. Because I feel that. Because, like. I feel like I've been the same my entire life. Yeah. And, you know, you know, like everyone sometimes I get accusations about, like, I've changed since I moved to L.A. or whatever, and I'm just like, I'm the same old guy. Like, I mean, I'm the same girl that I've always been. Yes. So I love that song also. Sorry. Not sorry. Bye. Demi Lovato has a chokehold.

Amy Wait, wait. How did that go? I know it, but I can't think of it.

Grace It's like I'm out here looking like revenge, feeling like a tan. The best I've ever been. Cool. Yeah, I know how bad it is, but it gets worse. So it's basically about I'm feeling good. And she's talking to somebody that doesn't want to see her doing good. And so she's just like, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry that I'm doing it. You know, it's nice. I love it. I love songs like that. But I have a little say because I struggle with confidence just as a human.

Amy Yeah. Yeah. That's why I like. Yeah.

Grace Going through Drunk in Love is the number one song that I played ever on this Apple Music. Well, I guess I really like Drunk in love.

Amy It is a good song. We be all night

Grace Yeah.

Amy Though it is, like, really odd. Like, I'm just going to say Beyonce has some interesting songs, and this is one where I'm like, you really just screaming into the fact that you f--- your husband. I'm like, Do we need to know? And so I'm like, I get it. I don't want to think of mom and dad on a surfboardt.

Grace Oh, no, their poor children. They have to hear about all this. Like Mommy, this song about you and Daddy having sex. But, yes, I mean, the first bunch of songs are all Beyoncé songs. Formation. My favorite song, Off of Lemonade, which is Hold Up.

Amy Yeah.

Grace The one that has a little bit of a Caribbean feel to it where she's wearing the yellow dress and the bat baseball bat. And then, of course, we cannot continue. I mean, the current soundtrack to my life is Renaissance by Beyonce, church girl.

Amy Church girl. Oh, man.

Grace That's a choke. Hold on me. Cuff it. Heated has a chokehold on me. Like, it's.

Amy Just songs you love. Is this the soundtrack to your life or just songs you love.

Grace It is right now. That's literally what I be walking around in New York City right now listening to. And oh, there's two other songs I'll mention just for a long time that I've loved is I still I say Thank You, which is by Smokie Norful, which is a gospel song, just basically is about like all this stuff that you go through in life that can be hard and still say, Thank you, God.

Amy That's beautiful.

Grace For it. Just it's a song about gratitude to me, for God. And then he was a man. Enough for me. There's the Toni Braxton song.

Amy Wait, who are you singing that about?

Grace So many men. So many men.

Amy Wow. Wow.

Grace So that's my little song that I'm just like when I come home from a bad day or whatever or, like, had, like, a weird interaction. I just put that in my headphones and be like, Listen, listen. Toni Braxton, a whole world. Yeah, that's beautiful. Oh, and there's one I cannot forget. First of all, you know who was Beyonce to me when I was a child?

Amy Who?

Grace Janet f---ing Jackson.

Amy Janet Jackson. Yeah. Janet.

Grace Janet Jackson. Everything from Rhythm Nation.

Amy Yes.

Grace Janet album like making us all feel bad about our abs.

Amy I told you about my chair dance that I did as a kid to my parents. To black cat.  I made them watch me do a chair dance. They're like, that's why she dressed herself.

Grace I, I, me and my friend Lisa Berkowitz from back in the day, what we used to do, my every January, my parents used to throw a Super Bowl party, slash my little brother's birthday. And so every time me and Lisa would be like, this is our moment. And so we would literally make the adults gather and we would do a choreographed dance for them. Yeah. Keyword in dance class. Oh, okay. Wanted to go, and they had to sit there and suffer. I mean, I apologize. Whoever went to one of those parties that I really did. Me and my friend actually watched so many Jada Jackson performances. But Janet Jackson and then the Celebrity Skin by Hole was a great album for me. Like I really loved. Did it. Did it. Did it. Yeah. I said, that's great. Well, we've been friends for a very long time, and I'm still learning about you.

Amy This was fun. So much fun that I think we should do it again sometime.

Grace Yes. And if you enjoyed our storytime segment, let us know and send us some questions you would like us to answer.

Amy Yeah. Let us know what stories you want to hear from us.

Grace So, Amy, you know, we've done story time a couple times now. And, you know, part of it is we're going to do one of those old school magazine quizzes from back in the day, but it's pretty short. It's only five questions.

Amy Okay. What's the quiz, though?

Grace The quiz is called Are you a classic commitment phobe?

Amy Okay. Damn, I already know the answer to this for me. And I love commitment. I'm like.

Grace Yeah, I don't know. I'm not optimistic about myself with this because I think I might be. But we'll see. Let's see. Because of course, the quiz knows the quiz therapist, not yourself.

Amy No trust the quiz.

Grace And so if the quiz says I'm a commitment phobe, that I am glad you're okay. Question number one on the way to a blind date does that anymore. But sure.

Amy I like I used to matchmaker. I've been on some blind dates.

Grace Oh yeah. I did that to you. That's right. You did it because you did it like many things. On the way to a blind date, you're most likely thinking, Eh, if nothing else, at least I'll be honing my flirting skills.

Amy That's what I should be thinking.

Grace B Setups never, ever work. This is going to be a total waste of time. And see, I wonder if he's a great kisser.

Amy Oh, I'm a I'm A of these options. I think the thing that I'm actually thinking very often is don't be too nervous. Don't be too nervous. Don't be too nervous. Don't be. Cause I get a lot of anxiety. Yeah, but I think of these options. I always try and tell myself a thanks to my therapist being like, focus on the positive. So I try and be like at least some honing some dating skills.

Grace Yeah, I actually would say that I'm A too and that has taken some growth because it used to be B used to be like this is a waste of time. But eh, if I haven't been on a date for a while, just sometimes I'll just go on the app and I'll be like, okay, let me just do one because I done. Yeah. So it's kind of like, yeah, sort of practicing because you do want to get out of practice of that. Yeah. Okay. In a relationship you tend to be the type who a keeps it in. When you're annoyed with your man, why bother arguing be can get a little emotional when you're upset, but what girl doesn't see thrives on drama. Loud fights are just fine because they're followed by make up sex.

Amy Oh my goodness. Wow. I'm fully a B, I get emotional. But what girl doesn't. Cosmo quiz. Boys get emotional too. But I, I used to be in a where I would keep it in and be like, it's fine. I don't want to argue. And it wasn't even why bother arguing. I literally had and still suffer with like such low self-esteem that I was just like, if I bring up a problem, he'll leave me. And so I used to never bring up issues, but now I'm just like, You're going to get these emotions.

Grace Yeah, I've just seen one thing about that's great about getting older is that you see your friends and your family members like go through a lot of stuff. Yeah. So I know that that holding it in actually doesn't work and the arguing doesn't work. So B is like the way I try to compare myself, like communicating clearly and honestly that I'm upset if I'm upset, but then like not trying to take it to a screaming fight. And in fact, I don't even think I don't fight. Maybe I've maybe screamed once in like all the relationships I've been and and he deserved it.

Amy Hah.

Grace Okay. So question number three, you have plans with a guy you're dating on Friday evening, but your closest friends schedule a rowdies girls night for the same time. You a reschedule with the guy? Men come and go, but your crew will last forever. B are tempted to cancel, but don't. After all, you make plans with him first and C girls nights are for desperate chicks try to land the guy no chance or bailing.

Amy What?

Grace What kind of toxic bitch would choose C?

Amy That's so crazy for me. It's like whoever made plans with first wins like I'm I would be B and it's not because I'm putting the guy above my girls it's just I made plans with him first. So if I had made plans of the girls first and the guy wants a date, I would be like, Sorry, I already made plans with my girls.

Grace Yeah. I mean, I think that's probably the best. I mean, the thing is, I would need some more details. I'm like, how much do I like this guy?

Amy There's, you know, it says the guy you're dating, not a guy you just met. So to me, that means it's a guy you like.

Grace Yeah. Okay. So if it's a guy like, then, you know, I would be tempted to cancel, but then I would follow through with the plans, although I'd be like, we have to set another plan very soon so I could be in it, too. Question number four You've lived in your apartment for nearly 12 months. How do you describe the decor? A You buy something each month and try to make it even home here. And it looked like it said horny or a first. What? A you buy something cute each month and try to make it even hum here. B you have everything you need and not much else. C, it's full of gorgeous things you love and will keep forever.

Amy Huh? I mean, this is none. I my answer is none of these. I'm wondering what I would say is that mine is full of gorgeous things. I love that I'm fine with being temporary. I've always been someone that when I move, I didn't used to be this way. When I moved into a place I had that I knew I wasn't staying a long time. I would get temporary things, but then I was never happy at home because I'm like, This isn't the couch of my dreams. This isn't, you know, the coffee maker, my dreams. So as I've gotten older and obviously made more income, I'm always like, even if I'm here for a short time, I'm going to outfit it like it's the place of my dreams. And even if it doesn't go with me to the next place, that's fine, because I'd rather feel at home. So I'm kind of a B slash C, I guess I'll say C, but I would say, like, for me, I'm like, my home is full of gorgeous things. I love that I am fine with getting rid of when I move to the next place because I yeah, I just want my home to feel like home when I'm in it. But it's not my forever home. But that's fine.

Grace Yeah. I would agree with that. I think I would say see for myself because every time I move, I look at it as a fun opportunity to like check in with my style and see like the ways it's evolved in the ways it's changed. Yeah, some things will fit and some things. Things and the things that won't either donate or I give to people that I love or or I get rid of. But yeah, but I think C is the closest of all of them. And here comes our last question. After you're on the job, you're told you won't get a promotion because your work hasn't been stellar.

Amy That's never that would never happen.

Grace Either of us.

Amy That would.

Grace We work.

Amy Yeah. I'm like, what are you talking about? Is for you cannot relate bitches.

Grace Even an assistant cannot relate.

Amy Cannot relate.

Grace I was the best assistant, literally. What's your work has been stellar. Thank you. I guess you like mediocrity more. I'm like, what? Well, I mean, we have to answer the question. We're not going to know whether we are commitment phobes or not. But a write a memo to your boss detailing how you plan to improve on all fronts. B Start looking around for other employment where you'll be more appreciated and C double your efforts. But consider that you're not as into your job as you should be.

Amy Actually, there was a job where my boss sent me an email and was like he kind of was talking about the way I was pitching and was like, It would be better if your pitches were like this or like this. And I was like, Oh, okay. It was just a different boss. His style was different than my previous boss. So I what I did was send an email with more pitches, you know. So I guess I kind of today that's the closest a.

Grace I would probably say be start looking for other a job because I feel like for me it's so hard to imagine that I wouldn't be trying my best. But I remember I did have a job. I worked at a nonprofit that will not be named because I'm about to drag the f--- out of them. But they are. I was working so hard. I was getting there early thing late. They just didn't seem to be pleased with anything that I was doing. And I ended up getting fired at the Christmas party in a very petty on their part. But it's okay. It led to some writing. That was the teaser for my pilot that literally got me every job I've ever had. But I feel like there are some places that you're going to be that, you know, knowing myself and I was going to really work hard. And if your skills are not being appreciated, it's time to maybe go somewhere else instead of being somewhere where you're unhappy. So it would be B for me.

Amy I love that we had one where we were different. We were the same on almost everything. Yeah.

Grace Okay, so after tabulating it, Amy, you got a four and I got a six.

Amy Out of how many?

Grace I guess you can get up to ten. Okay. So we ended up in the same range once again, not surprising, you and I. So ours is steadfast and savvy, equal parts, balanced and bold. You usually know when something's right for you and when to pull the plug. You get that. Life is about trial and error, says psychiatrist Joanne Magda, Ph.D. Your thoughtful nature keeps you focused, maintain your life equilibrium with some cool head, and don't let friends, relationship issues or job drama color the way you respond to your own situations. So basically were perfect.

Amy Well, what's so interesting, though, is the 4 to 6. I was a four and you were six and four is on the lower end. Yeah. Leaning towards way too attached, which I'm not surprised by. And six is on the higher end, which is leaning towards forever a free agent, which I'm also not surprised.

Grace No, not surprised.

Amy That really is us. Like I would say. I think we are both so. Fast and savvy, but I tend to stick around a little too long or be a little too loyal most of the time. Like, if I'm going one way, I tend to go towards loyalty.

Grace And me, I'm like, Bye bye. I have no problem with cutting situations off which, you know, sometimes is good, sometimes bad. Both. But yeah. Oh, but sometimes this is lovely. So that was so fun. So to close this out, we're doing our creative tap in, which is our segment about creativity. Amy, are you ready for this week's quote?

Amy I sure am.

Grace I remember being really young and having this voice inside me that told me to trust my gut. And my gut has been really, really strong in my life. It's pretty vocal and it leads me. That is by Solange Knowles. Again, I'll read it one more time. I remember being really young and having this voice inside me that told me to trust my gut. And my gut has been really, really strong in my life. It's pretty vocal and it leads me, Solange Knowles.

Amy This quote is making me emotional. It's like such a simple quote, but it's something like my therapist and I have been talking about and she literally said, you have a very strong gut and you have a very strong intuition and your intuition is always right and you just don't follow it. And I'm like, it's something I really struggle with. And I think it comes back to what I was saying about the quiz, about being too loyal to situations that are not positive or being too loyal to how things were. And sometimes my gut is telling me to do a thing and I'm like, But, but what if I could make it work this way? What if I could make it work that way? What if I could do this? It just takes this, and then it'd be fine. And I do that all the time. And I've always had a strong gut. Always. But I fight my gut always. And I don't know why and I don't know why. It's a real problem. And so I love that salon. Like, everything about her essence is I'm following this guy. And I think, yeah, sometimes with career, for the most part with career stuff, I tend to follow my gut. But actually, no, I take that back. It's not true. I f--- up all the time. I just don't follow my gut. And maybe that's going to be, you know, we're near the end of the year. Like maybe that'll be my New Year's resolution is like trust your gut because I don't I do. I know my gut is right, but I fight it and I'm like, I bet I can make this work and this way I bet I can make that work in that way. And I'm like, I got to learn to trust my f---ing gut.

Grace Yeah. I mean, for me, this is reminding me of things because, like, here's the thing about trusting your gut. Sometimes you also have people in your life that are all gut and they make a bunch of bad decisions and they're just like, So it's sort of like balancing your gut with your brain type thing. So like take for example, this is a perfect example of something that I'm struggling with right now is like, where do I want to go next in my career? Like, should I continue stepping or should I commit to development? Something my gut has always told me that I will have my own show. But I feel like sometimes when I staff, sometimes I'm just like, Oh, but I need money because my own show, it could take forever, you know what I'm saying? So should I trust my gut? And I feel like it's very close to me. So I trust my gut and just throw all my resources and energy in one direction. Or should I keep hedging my bets and like work on other people's shows, which is wonderful. Like, I love the show that I'm working on right now. It's so like near and dear to my heart, but at the same time, it does take your energy from the things that you are working on. So this is a beautiful quote because I think it reminds you to trust your gut. But sometimes I understand why we don't, because the objective facts of the world sometimes will encourage you to believe something different or that, you know, trusting your gut might be unrealistic. But the times that I have trusted it are very useful. Like I've wanted to work in Hollywood ever since I was eight years old. Yeah. Do you know how many people told me that that was not a path that I could take? Like. Dozens and dozens. Some people meant well, some people didn't, meanwhile. But a lot of people have told me that I can do it. But I knew in my gut that I was going to be here. So it's an interesting thing to really just give in to trusting your gut. I think I do need to do it more. I do do it. But then I.

Amy Yeah, but I would also say here's that I want to address the things you said, Grace, because and this is coming a little bit from my therapist, but she always says to me that like, it's not one or the other. It's not black or white. Your gut is probably right that you are supposed to have your own show, but that doesn't mean and therefore I can't staff, you know, it might mean staff and it'll take a little longer. So it's like, I have been there and my therapist had to yell at me about those things. But like I tend to and I think we just because we're writers and we finish stories, we tend to see so many things as black or white, yes or no, it's this or it's that. And it's like sometimes it's both, but different. And that's really hard because that and that's what I struggle with my gut all the time because I'm like, My gut says this, but if I do that, then what about this other thing? And I'm like, But maybe it's both. And you need to find a third option. But it's hard. It's like I literally feel anxiety. With this quote because it's it's speaking to something I really need to work on, and it's really hard.

Grace Well, you guys, listeners, this is a very friend moment between me and Amy, because these are the conversations we often have. Yeah. Like, we're just like. We don't know. We don't know this or that, but we're trying. But, you know, we support each other through all of it, which is a beautiful thing about our friendship. Okay. Well, thank you, Salon, for. Thanks for joining us. Lovely thing to think about. So thanks for listening to the antidote. We hope that this injected a little bit of joy into your week. I know it did mine. How about you, Amy?

Amy I feel good, girl. We should do this again sometime. Oh, we'll be here next week.

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Amy Yeah, yeah!