Since 2018, Sum'n to Say has discussed and debated notable events in Southern hip-hop and R&B, right out the SWATS. Hosts Jah, Yoh and Christina draw from their experiences as Atlanta-based music journalists, their memories of growing up below the Mason-Dixon and whatever libations may be on hand. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
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Feb 21, 2022
Omeretta the Great's Border Patrol vs. The Illegal ATLiens
00:57:31
Just when we thought apartheid in the A was over, Omeretta the Great's "Sorry Not Sorry" turned "We grew here, you flew here" into a song. In this 911 emergency episode, the crew came out of pod-tirement to discuss with entertainment manager Steven Dingle (@stevozone4).
Nov 30, 2020
The Legacy Route (w/ Taylor Crumpton)
01:03:46
Edit: This is our season 3 finale. See y'all in 2021.
When we talk about Southern rap’s evolution, we tend to focus on Atlanta’s contributions in particular. Cultural critic Taylor Crumpton reminds us that there are other Southsides — stories about this genre that still need to be told and amplified. As one of five writers selected for Shea Serrano's Halfway Books pilot program, she maps out Dallas rap history by way of Big Tuck's 'Purple Hulk.' Buy Taylor's essay at www.taylorhalfway.com
Support for Sum'n to Say is provided by patreon.com/sumntosay
Nov 23, 2020
Icefinity War: The Gucci Mane-Jeezy Verzuz Recap
01:00:41
After feuding for 15 or 20 years (hell, they argued over that too), Gucci Mane and Jeezy met at Magic City to settle the score by way of Verzuz. We wrap our heads around the night that was part reunion, part reconciliation and part retaliation. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from patreon.com/sumntosay
Nov 16, 2020
From Nujabes to Atlantis (w/ Chester Watson)
01:29:55
Chester Watson released his new album 'A Japanese Horror Film' this past Halloween. Halloween was a Saturday this year, though as the music makes clear, he navigates time and space by his own rules. We discuss how Samurai Champloo, astral projection experiences and a good talking-to from an ex informed his heady personal journey. Support Sum'n to Say at patreon.com/sumntosay
Oct 26, 2020
Who is T.I. Doing This Verzuz?
01:05:09
"We hear T.I.'s voice all the time. And depending on your perspective, sometimes we've heard too much of T.I.'s voice," says Jah. This week we debate whether his new album, The L.I.B.R.A., is essential listening. Support for this podcast comes from: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Oct 19, 2020
Sum'n to Replay: T.I's Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats
00:54:10
We'll be back with a new episode next week. Until then, in honor of T.I.'s new album The L.I.B.R.A., we're bringing back Episode 9 (!) from 2018, exploring 'Trap Muzik' 15 years later. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Oct 12, 2020
How OutKast Split the Atom in 'Stankonia' 20 Years Ago
00:56:58
Once OutKast got its 5-mic review in The Source, what else was left to do? As Jah put it, the resulting sound wasn't Organized Noize — it was disorganized, to its biggest mainstream successes yet. We look back at how 20 years ago, Stankonia fundamentally changed our ideas of what the South had to say.
Read Yoh's "Stankonia: The OutKast Album That Defies Reality," on Vinyl Me Please: http://magazine.vinylmeplease.com/magazine/outkast-stankonia-yoh-liner-notes/
Support for Sum'n to Say comes from: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Oct 05, 2020
The Savage Mode 2 Spooktacular
01:03:46
On one hand, 21 Savage and Metro Boomin double down on what made them bankable stars in the first place. But those searching for the introspection that earned 21 Grammy nods might only find dust and cobwebs. This week we debate the merits and Morgan Freeman interludes of 'Savage Mode II.'
Sep 28, 2020
Baby Keem's Mystery Machine
01:07:05
This week we attempt to solve some mysteries, from Kanye West's war against Universal and Sony [6:24] to Baby Keem's new deal with Kendrick Lamar and Dave Free as label bosses [29:17]. We also check out the latest mashup project by DJ Critical Hype, 'ANDRE,' featuring Andre 3000 raps and Tyler, the Creator instrumentals [53:21]. Support for Sum'n to Say comes from https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Sep 21, 2020
Freestyles Still Matter. Ask Mulatto.
00:47:56
In her 2020 XXL Freshman freestyle, Mulatto says, “Who else do you know that came from a TV show, turned down a deal and still taking off?” We talk about all the twists and turns in her career, from skating rink gigs(shoutout to Yoh's parents) to scoffing at a scarcity mindset. Help support the show at https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Sep 14, 2020
Sum'n to Hear: God Bless Nick Grant
01:13:38
It's disappointing when an artist's debut project doesn't match the hype, like when Nick Grant, a lyricist by trade, raps about cufflinks in 2017's 'Return of the Cool.' But 2020's 'God Bless the Child' marks the return of Nick Grant as we know it. This is part of Sum'n to Hear, where we discuss the not-yet-household names who have caught our attention.
By now it's easy to take Young Money's biggest success stories for granted. But we should remember how strange it was a decade ago to see Lil Wayne handpick his successors. We revisit the strange family portrait that is 2009's 'We Are Young Money,' disgusting CollegeHumor bars and all.
Aug 24, 2020
Oh Well... I'm So Contentious
01:19:26
Our original plan this week was to release a throwback episode. But we were so disheartened by the current state of affairs, from Megan Thee Stallion being called a snitch (4:09) to Pharrell and Jay Z's scolding dad energy in "Entrepreneur" (34:26), that this special news bulletin edition felt necessary. We ask the most pressing questions, from "Why is everyone Tory Lanez' friend now?" to "What do we do with rise-and-grind rap when capitalism is broken?"
Aug 17, 2020
Wet Ass Popeyes
00:35:22
The alternate title to this episode, about Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's "WAP," is "J. Edgar Jenner." We react to the reactions surrounding the first instant classic of 2020.
Aug 10, 2020
Hot Girl Bummer 2: Revenge of the Bummer
00:43:47
Between "Savage" and Quarantine Radio, Megan Thee Stallion and Tory Lanez were behind some of America's greatest quarantine pastimes. Then there was a shooting. We discuss how, between the tasteless takes and Megan's tears of disbelief, the world doesn't deserve a "Hot Girl Summer."
Taylor Crumpton for Harper's Bazaar: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a33471010/megan-thee-stallion-shooting-misogynoir/
Support on Sum'n to Say's Patreon went directly to purchasing new mics for Jah and Yoh — what's made it possible to restart season 4 during the COVID-19 pandemic. www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Aug 03, 2020
Stranger Things
01:03:43
Exactly how well can a posthumous album reflect the artist in question? We compare the new Pop Smoke and Juice WRLD to the closest hip-hop has seen to a platonic ideal: Notorious B.I.G.'s Life After Death.
Support on Sum'n to Say's Patreon went directly to purchasing new mics for Jah and Yoh — what's made it possible to restart season 4 during the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Mar 09, 2020
Lil Babies 'R' Us
00:47:46
There are two types of people. Yoh and Christina are Lil Baby people. They think that twinge of sadness in his voice makes you root for him, which makes the resolve in his lyrics all the more satisfying. But Jah is a DaBaby person. He catches flights, not feelings. This week: a (slightly) grown discussion about baby shit.
Mar 02, 2020
K Camp's Unlikely Jackpot
00:34:24
Weeks after The New York Times discovered Renegade dance creator Jalaiah Harmon, we discuss the song that inspired it all. Yes, we're talking "Lottery (Renegade)" by K Camp, the 2015 XXL Freshman behind Mykko Montana's "Do It," "Cut Her Off," "Money Baby" and "Comfortable." Where does he go from here? We play armchair A&Rs to discuss further.
Feb 24, 2020
Wastemen Not, Want Not: Jah's Guide to UK Rap
00:39:15
The UK rap scene is reaching critical mass. Jah has noticed, as he's dropped albums like Little Simz's 'GREY Area' in the group text. But when will the States embrace rap in the Queen's English, embrace Stormzy as much as Oasis, much less embrace some actual Black Beatles? To quote Yoh: Buy foreign verses, not foreign cars.
Feb 17, 2020
Tyga's Nine Lives
00:38:55
Fun fact: One artist who has more monthly Spotify listens than Chris Brown, J. Cole, Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar and Lil Wayne is... Tyga. Against our better judgment, we discuss how he inexplicably became the Fashion Nova of rap, Pornhub bars and all. Follow us on Twitter @SumnSay.
Feb 10, 2020
No Time for Losers ('Cause Khaled's a Champion)
00:36:31
Ten years ago rap game's Adam Sandler released his crowning achievement: a winning jock jam. But could his playbook use an update? We revisit “All I Do is Win” and how DJ Khaled has suffered from success ever since.
Feb 03, 2020
Unlock the Swag (w/ Marz and Ducko McFli)
00:43:28
Just when we had grown accustomed to trap becoming the post-recession soundtrack of our lives, we now had to figure out how to pronounce “Rae Sremmurd.” Ebro would rather have pulled the covers over his head. Critics felt old as fuck.
For our season 4 premiere, special guests Marz and Ducko McFli of Ear Drummers discuss the making of 'Sremmlife' and the duo who reminded hip-hop how to have fun again, no matter how hard we resisted.
Dec 05, 2019
Snowed Out: Revisiting 'The State vs. Radric Davis' and 'Til the Casket Drops'
00:51:27
Ten years ago next week, just when Clipse managed to escape label purgatory and release an album without years of delays ('Til the Casket Drops'), Gucci Mane confirmed his status as the South's new cult rap hero (with 'The State vs. Radric Davis'). In our final episode of 2019, we compare and contrast the two releases to revisit how an era of cocaine rap came to a close, and listeners instead got white boy “Wasted.”
Nov 28, 2019
We'd Like to Thank Our Moms
00:57:47
It's that time of year again! The Recording Academy announces its Grammy nominees, and hip-hop complains that the Grammys just don't understand. We debate whether these trophies still matter and revisit the best award show moments in hip-hop history: Diana Ross jiggling Lil Kim's breast. Three 6 Mafia thanking their choreographer. And of course, the South's declaration of independence.
Nov 21, 2019
Why Refinance, When You Can Refinesse? ('Parasite' Film Review)
01:03:21
'Parasite' intrigued Jah and Christina so much, they saw it again in theaters. They also insisted that Yoh join them. If you've seen this Bong Joon-ho film, and you're obsessing over every detail and still trying to make sense of its symbolism and hairpin turns, this recap and analysis is for you.
Nov 14, 2019
Summer Walker is Over It. Now What? (w/Clarissa Brooks)
01:00:33
QT is the Patreon tier where supporters ask us a question that we tackle in a future episode. (Find out more at patreon.com/sumntosay.)
This week patron and longtime listener Jalen K. Wright asks, "What advice would y’all give to an artist like Summer Walker who is not having the best/easiest time dealing with fame?" Critic and community organizer Clarissa Brooks (https://clarissambrooks.contently.com/) joins us to discuss the reluctant star's rapid rise, coupled with the high music business expectations facing an female R&B singer today.
Nov 07, 2019
Patreon Unlocked: Getting Back to the Roots
00:36:23
Ain't Gon' Let Up is our Patreon tier where folks can request an episode topic, for any verse, song, album or event taking place in hip-hop and R&B, in the South or otherwise. Find out more at patreon.com/sumntosay.
Shoutout to Robbie McClellan for requesting a look back at Things Fall Apart, the Roots album that recently turned 20. Revisiting the album prompted us to look back at the late '90s battle lines between mainstream and alternative hip-hop — and how the Roots found commercial and critical acclaim, despite being firmly on the "losing" side of that battle.
Oct 31, 2019
How DJ OHSO's Life Got Twisted Upside Down (w/DJ OHSO)
01:04:43
DJ OHSO was working at a call center when she stumbled across a Will Smith interview saying, "What's the point of a plan B? It distracts you from a plan A." As this episode's special guest, she explains how that random YouTube clip led to the start of her DJ career (in front of the Fresh Prince himself!) and honoring black women with her signature "Bounce Dat" parties.
Catch her at Red Bull Music Festival Atlanta 11/7: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/music/events/red-bull-music-festival-atlanta-ohsos-bounce-dat
Oct 24, 2019
Sum'n to Hear: Get a GRIP
00:33:35
Bringing back Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention. This month we discuss GRIP's 'Snubnose,' a full-length exploration of how the allure of even a revolver can change an East Atlanta native, in the age of "Pull Up Wit Ah Stick."
Yoh's DJBooth interview with GRIP: https://djbooth.net/features/2019-10-21-grip-snubnose-inside-bullet-riddled-world
Oct 17, 2019
Ten Years of Wale. Wow... That's Crazy
00:44:08
In his 2009 debut 'Attention Deficit,' Wale wants to be it all: a blog darling who can cross over, the DMV native who can carry go-go's torch. We revisit those impossible expectations and discuss how he's recovered ten years later, to meet his criteria for success — and his alone.
Oct 10, 2019
I'm DaBaby, Gotta Love Me!
00:34:58
In the time it takes to listen to a DaBaby project, we debate his past life as a Jesus-worshiping Rich Homie Quan soundalike, the best and worst guests on 'KIRK,' and where the Energizer Bunny of hip-hop possibly goes from here.
Oct 03, 2019
No Ray J Required
00:44:40
We've never received an episode request like this. This week producer Michael Saba asked us to discuss how the influence of Phil Collins has played out in '808s and Heartbreak,' intros by Meek Mill and Rapsody, songs by DMX — and an unfortunately named tribute album from 2001. More commentary from Mike here: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Sep 26, 2019
Debate Me, Nerd: The Most Influential Hip-Hop City of 2019
00:50:48
Hip-hop history is about how the sphere of influence has migrated, from the East Coast to the West Coast, Midwest to the South. Yoh, Jah and Christina attempt to figure out where that sphere of influence is in 2019. Could Megan Thee Stallion inspire a gold rush to Houston? Atlanta was as productive as ever, but was the music as memorable? And is City Girls' "PERIOD" enough to offset DJ Khaled's temper tantrum about bundles?
Check out Sum'n to Say on Is the Mic Still On: https://deadendpodcasts.com/tekashi-snitch-nine-ft-christina-and-yoh-sumn-to-say/
Sep 19, 2019
Sum'n to Hear: Pretty Girls 18-Wheelin' in the Trap
00:53:10
Introducing Sum'n to Hear, where Jah, Yoh and Christina discuss the newcomers who have caught their attention.
This month's playlist features: Benny the Butcher's "18 Wheeler," Maxo Kream's "Meet Again," Summerella's "Pretty Bitch in the Trap," Ari Lennox's "BMO" and Kenny Mason's "Hit."
Sep 12, 2019
Rich Gang's Super Saiyan Swagger
00:48:59
The tour itself didn't actually exist. No one was fluent in the Blanguage. And with its DJ interludes, this mixtape could never be mistaken for an album. Yet as we rediscover, Rich Homie Quan and Young Thug's 'Rich Gang: Tha Tour, Pt. 1.' sounds as vital as it did in 2014. The question is whether it requires a sequel.
Sep 05, 2019
Hot Girl Bummer
00:48:57
What makes a perfect song of the summer? We reunite to launch season 3 with Chance hats on, debate the merits of Megan Thee Stallion's “Hot Girl Summer,” and submit our picks for 2019: “Act Up” by City Girls (Yoh), “Ballin'” by Mustard and Roddy Rich (Jah), and “Truth Hurts” by Lizzo (Christina).
Jul 25, 2019
Think It's A Game?!?! w/ YFN Lucci
00:44:07
On the season finale of Sum'n To Say the gang sits down with Atlanta rapper YFN Lucci to talk about his experience growing up in the city, his journey through the music industry, and his new Gangsta Grillz 650 Luc.
Produced by Mike Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Put Sum'n On Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jul 18, 2019
The Thrilling Delusion Cruise of 'Teflon Don'
00:37:02
The opening line to 'Teflon Don' — “I'm not a star” — was a punchline in of itself. In the aftermath of being sued by the actual Freeway Rick Ross and outed as a correctional officer, Rick Ross became more committed to his outlandish persona than ever. Have you ever tried rapping like him? See when your lungs give out.
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jul 11, 2019
Patreon Unlocked: Confessions, Pt. IGOR
00:36:13
We used to avoid Tyler, the Creator for how he'd lash out in homophobic and misogynistic anger. But in due time, anyone can learn how to process their emotions differently, to where grief can actually end with acceptance. We discuss how 'IGOR' reminds us of that fact.
This episode was requested by Patreon supporter Jalen K. Wright.
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jul 04, 2019
The Ghetty Green New Deal
00:35:50
J. Cole, Cardi B and Drake interpolate his lyrics. Gucci Mane and 21 Savage wouldn't exist without him. But before that, Project Pat was an underground sensation setting the tone for Memphis hardcore rap. To understand the extent of his influence, we go back to where Pat's story begins: 1999's 'Ghetty Green.'
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jun 27, 2019
DG Yola Never Let Up
00:38:07
Jah's list of all-time favorite records goes something like this: “Purple Rain.” “Thriller.” “Ain't Gon' Let Up.” We time-travel back to 2006, when DG Yola's self-help to steel drums (“Go get your brain a bath / Go to church”) went diamond in the streets.
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jun 20, 2019
D.O.D.O.A. (Death of 'Death of Auto-Tune')
00:42:06
Back when Southern artists went platinum off a ringtone, and hip-hop's birthplace was notably absent from radio, Jay Z fired off "Death of Auto-Tune." We reflect on how this anticlimactic warfare forever changed how we view Hov as a business, *man,* T-Pain and noogies.
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jun 13, 2019
Keep Your Drums, Pimp C, Keep Your Drums
00:32:37
What began as an overlooked Project Pat single reemerged in 2007 as the definitive hip-hop wedding song. We look back at how UGK, Three 6 Mafia and OutKast formed a perfect union with "Int'l Players Anthem" — as in, DJ Khaled should stay as far away from this as possible.
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Jun 06, 2019
Make America Buck Again
00:31:23
Crime Mob weren't adults when they arrived in the scene. They drowned in their tall tees. We revisit how, against all odds, this teen group came in the club, shaking their dreads, to create the soundtrack to your smoke with "Knuck If You Buck."
Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Closing music by Slimm Leary
May 30, 2019
Patreon Unlocked: Holy MF Doom, Batman!
00:30:55
This is a Patreon-exclusive episode, but it's so good that we had to unlock it to share it with everyone. If you're interested in listening to more patron-only content like this, consider contributing to our Patreon crowdfunding page so we have the resources to keep delivering great content like this: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay
Twenty years ago Daniel Dumile slipped a Doctor Doom-inspired mask in the fight against the mainstream. We revisit MF Doom's debut album 'Operation Doomsday' (“The character is there, but he is still finding the voice and finding the flow,” says Yoh) and how, despite its limited release, its outsized impact on independent rap.
Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
May 23, 2019
Waka Flocka Seagulls
00:41:51
When Waka Flocka Flame said, “Drug dealing music / I influence,” he had no idea how right he'd be. We discuss how he and Lex Luger's straight brown liquor energy shook up the music industry ten years ago and can still be heard halfway across the world.
Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.patreon.com/michaelsaba
Closing music by Slimm Leary
May 16, 2019
How Jermaine Dupri, Ludacris and T.I. Welcomed Us to Atlanta
00:39:08
Today Jermaine Dupri and Ludacris' smiling faces appear on a giant digital screen at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to greet the 275,000 passengers flying in on a daily basis. This is the future these homegrown superstars first envisioned in their 2002 hit "Welcome to Atlanta." Plus, a detour through T.I.'s star turn in 'ATL.'
Shoutout to new Patreon support Sharod Clerge.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
May 09, 2019
TLC and the Perils of the Passenger Side
00:32:23
The term "scrub" wasn't always gender-specific. But in 1999, TLC, Kandi Burress and Tameka Cottle rewrote the definition to put the patriarchy on notice. Jah, Yoh and Christina revisit how "No Scrubs" alerted them to thirst buckets worldwide.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
May 02, 2019
Soulja of Fortune
00:31:45
You could call it a stroke of luck: how Soulja Boy invented clickbait when he had unsuspecting Limewire users downloading "Donk" instead of the latest Britney Spears single. But to quote Yoh, "Crank Dat"'s lasting impact on music, the industry grind and us all (YOU!) wasn't a joke.
Thanks to our first Patreon supporters: Robbie McClellan, Sarah Lawrence and Jalen Wright
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
Apr 25, 2019
Missy Elliott Has Been That Bitch
00:41:22
Even Missy Elliott once feared the sophomore slump. We discuss how she answered to that fear 20 years ago: She watched The Matrix, called up Hype Williams and delivered a feminist manifesto called "She's a Bitch."
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
Apr 18, 2019
Lil Nas Jesus
00:34:41
The American Dream suggests that anyone here can achieve anything, as long as you work hard. Thanks to Lil Nas X, the American Dream could be summed up even more succinctly: Can't nobody tell me nothing.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
Apr 11, 2019
At the Mercy of 2 Chainz
00:31:32
Once upon a time at Club Frequency, Jah used to always see this tall ass dude with long ass braids wearing an itty bitty shirt. The rapper previously known as Tity Boi has always been this larger-than-life presence. We revisit the moment where 2 Chainz had truly arrived: his feature on G.O.O.D. Music's "Mercy."
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
Apr 04, 2019
It Takes Two to Tether('Us' Movie Review ft. David Dennis, Jr.)
00:42:36
We discuss the underexplored themes, jarring scenes and true-to-life horrors of this tinfoil hat thriller. (Of course there are spoilers.) Plus: Is 'Us' the 'Late Registration' of Jordan Peele's catalog? And how would your doppelgänger take you down?
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba
Music by Slimm Leary
Mar 28, 2019
The Gang Meets Keri Hilson
00:59:28
MS. KERI, BABY! joins us to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her debut 'In a Perfect World.' She talks about balancing music with her Emory University studies, catching Timbaland's attention when he was actually considering retirement, and reckoning with how R&B has changed since "Turnin Me On."
Feelings of "Intuition" by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Opening music by Slimm Leary
Mar 21, 2019
Lil Wayne and the Good Ship Lollipop
00:36:23
"Lollipop" wasn't the Lil Wayne that anyone knew when he recorded it on March 13, 2008. But it would be the Lil Wayne that took over the world. Yoh, Jah and Christina revisit how Weezy bet on himself to become the Auto-Tuned alien force whose DNA can still be found in rap and even rock (I'm sorry, Framing Hanley, for getting your name wrong).
Lighter flicks by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Mar 15, 2019
Killer Mike, Atlanta 'Monster'
00:35:17
By 2003, Killer Mike had won Grammy without having an album out. This week we revisit how this "new school Ice Cube" answered to such high expectations with his debut 'Monster,' with all its Bizarre twists and Andre 3000-produced turns.
Squeaky A.D.I.D.A.S. by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Closing music by Slimm Leary
Mar 07, 2019
Juvenile's Azz Starter Pistol Turns 20
00:35:51
In a world when even Ellen DeGeneres tries to twerk, we revisit the Billboard hit that turned mainstream America into azz folks, by Juvenile, Mannie Fresh and a prepubescent Lil Wayne.
Dragnet suspense by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Feb 28, 2019
Lil Jon, Dave Chappelle, & The Chronicles Of Crunk
00:44:35
The Sum'n To Say podcast consists of Christina, Jah, and Yoh. This week they celebrate the 15 year anniversary of the first time Dave Chappelle did a Lil Jon sketch on Chappelle's Show.
Feb 21, 2019
BONUS: Casting Trapula After Seeing 'Horror Noire'
00:34:23
Mere days after we get spooked by the trailers for Jordan Peele's 'Us' and Octavia Spencer's 'Ma,' we find and review a new documentary about black horror from the ages of 'Birth of a Nation' to MAGA hats.
Subscribe to watch 'Horror Noire': https://www.shudder.com/
In-depth interview with 'Night of the Living Dead' star Duane Jones: https://youtu.be/w8lDmF2oH4w
John Trapenter production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Feb 21, 2019
Revisiting Geto Boys' First Stab at Horrorcore
00:41:30
In 1988, the Geto Boys emerged out a nightclub called the Rhinestone Wrangler to drop its debut album 'Making Trouble.' We revisit that awkward first stab at what the group would call "horrorcore reality hip-hop," which, for Yoh, led to some awkwardness at Zaxby's.
Production and printer smash scenes by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Feb 14, 2019
Speakerboxxx/The White Grammy
00:37:42
WE'RE BACK. Today we revisit OutKast's 'Speakerboxxx/The Love Below,' the sprawling tour de force where Big Boi relegates Jay Z to hook duty and Andre 3000 completes his transformation to elite grand wizard ATLien. Plus, we discuss the historic Grammy win in what Jah calls the "white" category: Album of the Year.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
#Free21Savage: https://campaigns.organizefor.org/petitions/free-and-stop-the-deportation-of-21-savage-now-1
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Nov 28, 2018
2018 Season Finale
01:01:16
This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh come together for the end-of-year 2018 wrap-up episode. After Jah and Yoh hash out their opposing opinions on Anderson.Paak’s major label debut album, Oxnard. The trifecta go over their highs, lows, disappointments, and surprises of 2018. This will be the last episode of the year, but we will be back in 2019. Thank you to all our guests and listeners, we hope to see you all next year.
Nov 21, 2018
The Gift and the Curse (with Steven "Stevo" Dingle)
01:18:57
The Atlanta talent manager and brand strategist (OG Parker, Kollision) looks back on life and times before and after Quality Control: how he was late to boarding the Jay Z train, helped launch a viral hit before streaming became actual currency and lived to see James Corden singing one of his clients' hits.
Production and King of the Hill references by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Special guest Steven "Stevo" Dingle: https://twitter.com/stevozone4
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Nov 14, 2018
You Want It To Be One Way...(w/ DJ Wally Sparks)
01:03:55
On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast we are joined by the incomparable DJ Wally Sparks to talk about his roots here in Atlanta and his epic R&B party The Groove. Wally also opines about the nature of "fickle" music fans. Is NYC still the mecca of hip-hop? Can meccas move? We dive into that topic as well. Also, Soulja Boy is a political activist (not really, but kinda?)
Nov 07, 2018
The Kids Are Alright
00:46:31
This week on the Sum'n To Say podcast, Jah, Christina and Yoh talk about the possibility of Drake becoming a "house show" TV host, the potential future for up-and-coming Atlanta artists like Keenon Rush, Wiley From Atlanta and Boregard. We also plan to make a field trip to Magic City's open mic night and explain why record labels should hire strippers to be A&Rs.
Oct 31, 2018
Dreamcast and Nightmares (with Dr. Regina Bradley)
00:58:10
Literal hip-hop scholar Dr. Regina Bradley shares her theses on what the youth are missing out on today: skits, sexually explicit lyrics from male artists, and the joy of spades games IRL.
Production and retro console vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Special guest Regina Bradley: twitter.com/redclayscholar
Music by Slimm Leary
Oct 24, 2018
Literally Everything is a Battle Rap (with David Dennis)
On this episode of the Sum'n To Say podcast Christina, Yoh and Jah discuss Drake's interview with LeBron James on 'The Shop' in addition to our reactions to the recent release of albums from Atlanta artists (T.I., Quavo, Usher, Lil Baby & Gunna).
Oct 10, 2018
Where's the fuckin blow?? (The A3C Extravaganza Episode With Dom Maldonado)
01:03:33
Passionate music nerd, creator of the Leaders of the New Cool concert series, and Warner Bros. Records A&R Dom Maldonado joins us to talk her first night of the annual A3C Music Conference and Hip-Hop Festival, explains what a Zoovie is, the legendary Magic Mall in Orlando, and shares stories and perspectives on the state of music.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Special guest Dom Maldonado: https://twitter.com/SunshineDBaby
Underground To Stone Mountain: Donald Glover's Enigmatic Atlanta Arc
00:56:22
Christina, Jah and Yoh take their DeLorean back to when Childish Gambino was simply a creative kid exploring his musical voice. We then journey forward to the present where he has become a cultural hero.
Production and leery 'Camp' references by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Sep 19, 2018
Vision 6oard for the 5tarter Mansion
00:54:59
The new album by 6lack, East Atlanta Love Letter, enters the Sum'n to Say discussion colosseum. We dig into the heart of his sophomore offering, praise the inventive drive-in movie listening party, and consider what the East Atlanta Love Letter can possibly do next.
Production and "Vacation" auto-reply by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Intro music by Slimm Leary
Creature from the Blacked Lagoon (with Myke C-Town)
01:18:30
Dead End Hip Hop's Myke C-Town stops by to weigh in Nicki Minaj's social media foolishness and the overall perils of being a #content creator in Hellworld 2018. Plus, a brief TED talk on "blacked" (don't Google it, let Yoh's shock explain).
Production and artwork by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Special guest Myke C-Town: https://www.youtube.com/user/mykectown
Dead End Hip Hop: http://deadendhiphop.com/
Aug 24, 2018
Un Solo Migo
00:56:40
On today's lost episode of 'Atlanta,' Yoh and Jah meet for the first time at a mansion party where Quavo is singing hooks a cappella.
Production and Beatles vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Aug 22, 2018
On BlackKlansman, AKA Racist Catfish
00:43:40
We discuss the Trump subliminals, bigoted pillow talk and racists using their indoor voices in BlackKlansman. This review comes a week after we saw it in theaters and 30 seconds after we read Boots Riley's searing 3-page critique.
Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Aug 15, 2018
Primetime, Hammer Time, Halftime: Music And Sports In Atlanta
01:06:19
Pay us now, Super Bowl producers. Since next year's game is in Atlanta, us residents went ahead and curated the entire 2019 ceremony, from the walk-on song to halftime acts and community outreach. Also, Will Smith: Yoh starts as your presidential campaign manager Friday.
Production and live action Street Fighter vibes by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Aug 08, 2018
Dawn of Justice: Our Origin Stories
01:06:20
We look back at when Lenox Mall mixtape salesmen were the original 2 Dope Boyz, Christina's mom heard Eminem taunt Tipper Gore and Yoh's aunt had him review So Far Gone for her website. These are the moments that got us into hip-hop.
Production and artwork by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Aug 01, 2018
Future Potter and the Codeine Stone
00:53:30
Did Jay Z wear a helmet when he lost 92 bricks? Is Future the world's most renewable energy source? And how does he rank among other members of the Dungeon Family? Just asking questions.
Production and artwork by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis
Jul 25, 2018
Drake: Scorpion, Shame And Single Dad Subterfuge
01:11:18
Let the record show: We sat to talk Drake's 'Scorpion' two DAYS before 'Rolling Stone' reported Kanye's possible involvement in his beef with Pusha T. So put some respek on Prophet Yoh's name, as you listen to our half-drunk analysis on Drake's shame bars.
Produced by Michael Saba.
Jul 25, 2018
Trap To The Future
00:53:46
Dave Matthews rapping Migos lyrics on TV. Sounds like one of the seven signs of the apocalypse, right? But Jimmy Fallon's basic ass forced us Atlanta residents and rap critics to reckon with how trap catapulted into the mainstream. While you're here, put on DG Yola's "Ain't Gon' Let Up" for Jah one time: https://youtu.be/ipvkHY9VXOM
Produced by Michael Saba.
Jul 18, 2018
BONUS: We Just Saw 'Sorry to Bother You' and WTF
00:31:00
SPOILER ALERTS ABOUND. We couldn't help ourselves. We discuss the themes of Boots Riley's standout debut film and the scenes that had us reeling in our seats. Run to a theater near you: https://tickets.sorrytobotheryou.movie/
Produced by Michael Saba.
Jul 18, 2018
Introducing Sum'n to Say: Pusha's Paradox
00:52:42
Introducing Sum'n to Say, a new Atlanta-based hip-hop culture podcast starring Jason "Jah" Lee (@HipHopObama), Christina Lee (@MinaAnnLee) and Yoh Phillips (@Yoh31). We ask the most important questions of our time: Will we be mad at Kanye forever? And who will win Pusha v Drake: Dawn of Justice?
Produced by Michael Saba.
Feb 21 | 00:57:31
Omeretta the Great's Border Patrol vs. The Illegal ATLiens
Nov 30 | 01:03:46
The Legacy Route (w/ Taylor Crumpton)
Nov 23 | 01:00:41
Icefinity War: The Gucci Mane-Jeezy Verzuz Recap
Nov 16 | 01:29:55
From Nujabes to Atlantis (w/ Chester Watson)
Oct 26 | 01:05:09
Who is T.I. Doing This Verzuz?
Oct 19 | 00:54:10
Sum'n to Replay: T.I's Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats
Oct 12 | 00:56:58
How OutKast Split the Atom in 'Stankonia' 20 Years Ago
Oct 05 | 01:03:46
The Savage Mode 2 Spooktacular
Sep 28 | 01:07:05
Baby Keem's Mystery Machine
Sep 21 | 00:47:56
Freestyles Still Matter. Ask Mulatto.
Sep 14 | 01:13:38
Sum'n to Hear: God Bless Nick Grant
Sep 07 | 01:07:02
In Our Feelings
Aug 31 | 00:47:16
The Howard University of Frat Rap
Aug 24 | 01:19:26
Oh Well... I'm So Contentious
Aug 17 | 00:35:22
Wet Ass Popeyes
Aug 10 | 00:43:47
Hot Girl Bummer 2: Revenge of the Bummer
Aug 03 | 01:03:43
Stranger Things
Mar 09 | 00:47:46
Lil Babies 'R' Us
Mar 02 | 00:34:24
K Camp's Unlikely Jackpot
Feb 24 | 00:39:15
Wastemen Not, Want Not: Jah's Guide to UK Rap
Feb 17 | 00:38:55
Tyga's Nine Lives
Feb 10 | 00:36:31
No Time for Losers ('Cause Khaled's a Champion)
Feb 03 | 00:43:28
Unlock the Swag (w/ Marz and Ducko McFli)
Dec 05 | 00:51:27
Snowed Out: Revisiting 'The State vs. Radric Davis' and 'Til the Casket Drops'
Nov 28 | 00:57:47
We'd Like to Thank Our Moms
Nov 21 | 01:03:21
Why Refinance, When You Can Refinesse? ('Parasite' Film Review)
Nov 14 | 01:00:33
Summer Walker is Over It. Now What? (w/Clarissa Brooks)
Nov 07 | 00:36:23
Patreon Unlocked: Getting Back to the Roots
Oct 31 | 01:04:43
How DJ OHSO's Life Got Twisted Upside Down (w/DJ OHSO)
Oct 24 | 00:33:35
Sum'n to Hear: Get a GRIP
Oct 17 | 00:44:08
Ten Years of Wale. Wow... That's Crazy
Oct 10 | 00:34:58
I'm DaBaby, Gotta Love Me!
Oct 03 | 00:44:40
No Ray J Required
Sep 26 | 00:50:48
Debate Me, Nerd: The Most Influential Hip-Hop City of 2019
Sep 19 | 00:53:10
Sum'n to Hear: Pretty Girls 18-Wheelin' in the Trap
Sep 12 | 00:48:59
Rich Gang's Super Saiyan Swagger
Sep 05 | 00:48:57
Hot Girl Bummer
Jul 25 | 00:44:07
Think It's A Game?!?! w/ YFN Lucci
Jul 18 | 00:37:02
The Thrilling Delusion Cruise of 'Teflon Don'
Jul 11 | 00:36:13
Patreon Unlocked: Confessions, Pt. IGOR
Jul 04 | 00:35:50
The Ghetty Green New Deal
Jun 27 | 00:38:07
DG Yola Never Let Up
Jun 20 | 00:42:06
D.O.D.O.A. (Death of 'Death of Auto-Tune')
Jun 13 | 00:32:37
Keep Your Drums, Pimp C, Keep Your Drums
Jun 06 | 00:31:23
Make America Buck Again
May 30 | 00:30:55
Patreon Unlocked: Holy MF Doom, Batman!
May 23 | 00:41:51
Waka Flocka Seagulls
May 16 | 00:39:08
How Jermaine Dupri, Ludacris and T.I. Welcomed Us to Atlanta
May 09 | 00:32:23
TLC and the Perils of the Passenger Side
May 02 | 00:31:45
Soulja of Fortune
Apr 25 | 00:41:22
Missy Elliott Has Been That Bitch
Apr 18 | 00:34:41
Lil Nas Jesus
Apr 11 | 00:31:32
At the Mercy of 2 Chainz
Apr 04 | 00:42:36
It Takes Two to Tether('Us' Movie Review ft. David Dennis, Jr.)
Mar 28 | 00:59:28
The Gang Meets Keri Hilson
Mar 21 | 00:36:23
Lil Wayne and the Good Ship Lollipop
Mar 15 | 00:35:17
Killer Mike, Atlanta 'Monster'
Mar 07 | 00:35:51
Juvenile's Azz Starter Pistol Turns 20
Feb 28 | 00:44:35
Lil Jon, Dave Chappelle, & The Chronicles Of Crunk
Feb 21 | 00:34:23
BONUS: Casting Trapula After Seeing 'Horror Noire'
Feb 21 | 00:41:30
Revisiting Geto Boys' First Stab at Horrorcore
Feb 14 | 00:37:42
Speakerboxxx/The White Grammy
Nov 28 | 01:01:16
2018 Season Finale
Nov 21 | 01:18:57
The Gift and the Curse (with Steven "Stevo" Dingle)
Nov 14 | 01:03:55
You Want It To Be One Way...(w/ DJ Wally Sparks)
Nov 07 | 00:46:31
The Kids Are Alright
Oct 31 | 00:58:10
Dreamcast and Nightmares (with Dr. Regina Bradley)
Oct 24 | 01:10:32
Literally Everything is a Battle Rap (with David Dennis)
Oct 19 | 01:00:33
Beware The Ides Of March
Oct 10 | 01:03:33
Where's the fuckin blow?? (The A3C Extravaganza Episode With Dom Maldonado)
Oct 03 | 01:04:33
Can You Feel the Thug Tonight
Sep 26 | 00:56:22
Underground To Stone Mountain: Donald Glover's Enigmatic Atlanta Arc
Sep 19 | 00:54:59
Vision 6oard for the 5tarter Mansion
Sep 12 | 00:51:02
The R-Word: The Audacity of Jeezy's 'HOPE'
Sep 05 | 00:54:10
Escaping the Trap: T.I.'s Preaching to Pushers and Proletariats
Aug 29 | 01:18:30
Creature from the Blacked Lagoon (with Myke C-Town)
Aug 24 | 00:56:40
Un Solo Migo
Aug 22 | 00:43:40
On BlackKlansman, AKA Racist Catfish
Aug 15 | 01:06:19
Primetime, Hammer Time, Halftime: Music And Sports In Atlanta
Aug 08 | 01:06:20
Dawn of Justice: Our Origin Stories
Aug 01 | 00:53:30
Future Potter and the Codeine Stone
Jul 25 | 01:11:18
Drake: Scorpion, Shame And Single Dad Subterfuge
Jul 25 | 00:53:46
Trap To The Future
Jul 18 | 00:31:00
BONUS: We Just Saw 'Sorry to Bother You' and WTF
Jul 18 | 00:52:42
Introducing Sum'n to Say: Pusha's Paradox
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