Hawks getting fined for sitting a healthy Trae Young - 0:21

76ers/Joel Embiid - 5:38

Organization rankings - 9:05

Eliminating a team from the playoffs - 49:36

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John and Nate examine the turmoil in Philadelphia, explain the criteria for their organization rankings (16:12) then start ranking teams from the top:

• Organization 1 - 21:34
• Organization 2 - 29:14
• Organization 3 - 37:05
• Organization 4 - 40:59

John and Nate also eliminate a team from the playoffs (46:47).

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Atlanta Hawks - 02:16

Cleveland Cavaliers - 07:49

Charlotte Hornets - 12:07

Boston Celtics - 16:23

Milwaukee Bucks - 20:31

Miami Heat - 23:57

Philadelphia 76ers - 28:48

Chicago Bulls - 34:00

Indiana Pacers - 41:45

New York Knicks - 45:47

Orlando Magic - 50:54

Detroit Pistons - 54:31

Bronny James - 59:43

Brooklyn Nets - 01:03:06

Toronto Raptors - 01:05:18

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• New Orleans Pelicans - 0:37
• Oklahoma City Thunder - 4:05
• Golden State Warriors - 7:00
• Dallas Mavericks - 12:24
• L.A. Clippers - 16:26
• Minnesota Timberwolves - 20:35
• Utah Jazz - 24:46
• Memphis Grizzlies - 28:27
• Los Angeles Lakers - 32:41
• Houston Rockets - 36:13
• Phoenix Suns - 40:25
• Denver Nuggets - 44:18
• San Antonio Spurs - 49:28
• Portland Trail Blazers - 53:16
• Sacramento Kings - 58:20

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John and Nate canvas the league and pick the players they think will be above or below expectations in the 2024-25 season, and both make over 10 picks in both categories. No timestamps on this one because it would ruin the podcast to list all the players ahead of time.

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Buckle up! John returns with a riveting explanation of all the crazy cap machinations that made the Wolves/Knicks trade possible. Does the league have a right to be annoyed with this kind of “circumvention?” 12:40. We also discuss whether we would have done this deal as the Knicks and Wolves and the pros and cons for each side. 18:23.

Then we discuss the retirement of Derrick Rose and whether he should be a Hall-of-Famer (38:08), and lament the early passing of Dikembe Mutombo. 43:47.

Then, we play a little playoff matchup roulette among some of the top teams in the East and the West and project the winner of some matchups we’d like to see. 48:03.

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John and Nate discuss the news that Kawhi Leonard won’t be cleared to start camp, the possibility of trading Kawhi (4:18), and whether the Kawhi trade and full-draft trades in general are worth it (5:51). Also, Mitchell Robinson won’t be back until the winter (15:00), and Joel Embiid agrees to an extension. (23:55)

Plus, more mailbag questions on whether injuries are ruining the playoffs (27:36), Scoot Henderson’s potential (35:00) the big scary Apron (38:39) , whether the Sixers are overrated going into the season (42:21), how we watch basketball and how to improve your own basketball-watching (45:34), and whether teams will also “position” themselves for the 2026 draft. (52:09)

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John and Nate discuss disagreements on recent extensions involving Jamal Murray, Andrew Nembhard, and TJ McConnell.  Then, a typically great series of questions from our listeners:

• Is it better to have good players paid a little more than they’re worth or value contracts for solid players? 15:29
• Will the new CBA restrictions chill activity at the trade deadline? 17:32
• How much do teams prioritize acquiring players who are friends with the star? 20:32
• Flagg vs Wemby? 25:36
• Has Okongwu shown enough for the Hawks to trade Capela? 27:56
• How we view the Rockets’ plethora of young prospects. 31:25
• The New Orleans situation with Ingram and no apparent centers. 43:03
• How John handled it when players’ names got out in trade talks. 47:40
• What will be some of the key tactical developments and trends this season? 54:00

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We are honored to be graced by official Summer League Award Voter John Hollinger to hand out some unofficial Summer League Awards:

Who will be the best rookie this year, and who will have the best career?

Who changed your opinion the most for the better?

Most disappointing player?

“I nailed this one,” guys who looked exactly like you thought they would

Who are you worried about?

Best defensive player?

Best rookie in the 2nd half of the first round?

Best “sleeper,” i.e. 2nd round or undrafted?

Best sophomore?

“Too good for summer league?”

Wish you were here

Most overrated summer league?

Most underrated summer league?

Victory lap (prematurely)

Looking rock solid, just going to be a solid NBA player

Pick you totally didn’t understand that was confirmed

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John and Nate discuss all the big events of the last few days:

• John’s most surprising transaction
• How good the PG Sixers are, and what cap shenanigans they can use to add a power forward.
• Our West power rankings as it stands today
• The fit of Hartenstein and Caruso in OKC
• Klay Thompson, Quentin Grimes, and Naji Marshall in Dallas.
• Whether there’s any excuse for Denver losing KCP and how much it hurts them.
• Memphis’ potential to get back in the West mix.
• DeMar DeRozan’s potential fit with the Lakers.
• And the latest on what the heck the Pistons are doing.

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