Invisible Darlings - Fast piano  Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant  Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter  Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists  Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune  Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7  Lol & Budgie loved “In Search of Space” Dik-Mik & Lemmy - hippies and punks Damn Skippy – A Darker psychedeliaBeing open to change - Animal Collective’s philosophy  Grow and move on - Nothing lasts  David curious about creative Psychedelics - was Pornography Psychedelic? Challenging times - But Lol’s favourite Cure albumBudgie in a Camden Dreamhouse - Dinner in a Greek restaurant The Cure as a psychedelic punk band. Trout Mask Replica - Strange Days from The DoorsRobert sings backwards at 4 am  Music’s a trip!

___Respect: Lemmy Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015)___

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Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live  

OMD and Echo and The BunnymenBudgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbalLol and Budgie and the Punk revolutionLoose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisationAvey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno!

What’s the patch Today Kids? Animal Collective and Broken Flangers -The future of Music Axis Bold as Love Orgasmic tape flanging!Is the Solina Dutch or Italian? The Mirage worked with beer - The Synare Synth drum broke 

Love and Hate In the 80’sAC early days in NYC - Distance and Creation You could play a good tour as your profession.Competition’s not real. Right on!The Internet Ruins Everything it Touches

Iowa City Flashback!  “The Devil’s loins’, says Budgie - “Half and half”, says Avey  Flyers in Ashville Oasis – Oklahoma, the city of Flaming Lips Huge airport - No people - Deja Vu or What!?

Mr Moog and Mr Buchla “The Buchla is Goth!”, says LolNo Manual - Anything could happen!Avey took his music easel on Tour!Never again RTFM!

___Respect: Robert Arthur Moog (May 23, 1934 – August 21, 2005)___

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Wild is the Wind & VulnerabilityBudgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-SoundWhen Garbage played their first London show in 1995Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy ChainsawShirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie 

Golden Years30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chairShirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in LA during lockdown had Shirley return to Scotland asap

Little Red CorvetteLol and Budgie dreamed of driving - Shirley drives electric dreamsNow all is Zen behind the wheel - Saving the Rage for the StageShirley was bullied as a kid - SATB helped her become Empowered!Lol and Shirley like Being Stupid sometimes 

Break-Up to Make-Up On Tour with The Creatures, came Budgie’s wake-up call Like an old British sitcom, Lol and Budgie share similar experiences Garbage had to break-up to stay together – to ignore what was being said  The Cure & Banshees were too young to know - a year out might have saved them. 

Don’t Talk to Me About LoveWe talk about the C-word - Shirley wants the T-shirt!Leaving The Cure was like Lol leaving his family or Excommunication! To understand change is not easy - such a huge part of our identity. Budgie has come to know love’s changesBeing in a band is like being married - the Pot calling the Kettle Black!

ChangesShirley succinctly explains being in a bandRelieved that the band has adjusted to her changes  Shirley humbled by hip surgery - a triumphant story!Shirley says, forget your ego - enjoy life and seize the day.Ringo Starr says… Up yer bum!

____Respect: John Lennon (October 9th 1940 – December 8th 1980) ‘Instant Karma’____

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Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudesFinding a better way – with People that healBudgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen 

Lol is Awake - Right Now!Meg stops to smell the flowersDiscovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it‘Hell is other people.’ said Sartre The Volcanoes of Hawaii tempted The Creatures to Feast!

Dogs are Wizards - Cats are Bosses!Preparing to tour - Sad to leave the catsSafe and comfortable on stage  Things get Manifested when you’re Connected In Sound and Vision Meg feels Fully Realised.

Lol and Budgie - Keeping it Together! Time to Explore - Madeira Cake - Port - Bananas - Biblical Creativity comes when it wants to be Created Hair as Prayer – Lol’s dream of a Mohawk on the Astral plane Meditating - Downloads and Alignment Meg’s Dreams are her Guides!

____Respect: Simone de Beauvoir (9 January 1908 – 14 April 1986) "The Second Sex - 1949"

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I am Not the Body.Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to herNo more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer spacean epiphany of self-realization. 

One Universe of Expression.  Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdomRemoving the armour of invention Tiny deaths brought release and growth 

The Id not The EgoReleased from the toxicity and trauma of childhoodMeg finds new expression of self and spirit through music Resisting all outside intrusions to take time to Create a safe channel.

Open to Greater Wisdom‘When there is no me, there is more authenticity.’Meg’s process of Evolution? - Hacking the System!a major perspective shift, an all-knowing Higher self Nothing to be done and Everything will be done. Hmmm…. Exactly!

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Respect: Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973)"Strange Things Happening Every Day"____

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Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette  The NIN drum throne came free againBeck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of FameSays, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes!

TOTP not OGWTIf we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life!

More About Drums and Food!Guitarists and singers may minimize the drums but a good drummer is the making of most bands Rhythm and Voice are what most people get.Budgie drummed melodies and chords on the Kit

But We Do Dig Guitarists Man!The Violin out-foxed Ilan – too strenuous to learn. No woodwind or Brass but now he plays the clarinet!Budgie left France for Berlin because Toby Dammit’s shoes sounded good.Ten Years After, and Berlin’s still, Grotty, Grimy and Grizzly 

Los Angeles is Super-efficient Between tours it’s cool - Before tours it’s cool – After tours it’s cool!Lol didn’t plan to live in LA - he found Love and Acceptance Los Angeles is Lol’s Home Sweet HomeBudgie thought LA would be his too? 

SIR – Into The Valley!Indicators out of Sync? - Drummers needing Therapy?Taiko and Dancing? - Lol 3rd Act Lessons? Budgie and Leo’s O’Daiko? - Let the Sticks do the Talking?Lol and Budgie want Roland Taikos to Dance with – Non-Dancing-Dancing! 

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Respect: Alvin Lee (1944 – 2013) ‘Ten Years After’____

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When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing deskNo exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums

Instantaneous?Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage?Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of The Creatures

Russian Dragon?Illan relives the Moment of Terror when his IEMs fell out.It’s time to change when Smoke and Mirrors obscure allIlan’s drum kit disappears in smoke – where does he go? Smoke and strobes transport Ilan.

Drummers Corner:  Ilan is right handed but he plays the hi-hat leftie Reggae showed Budgie a different drum style 

Titilating Titbits:Ilan loves Stewart Copeland’s mix of rock and reggaeLol plays to the voices in his headBudgie only sings when the extractor fan is in his key. Ilans toothbrush goes from major to minor.Doesn’t Yours? 

____Respect: Jaki Liebezeit (26 May 1938– 22 January 2017) CAN____

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The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changedIt's good the world changed too. 

Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watchLol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drummingThe Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time 

Gilbert and George v Lol and BudgieDrinking with The Wankers at 5amFrom Whitechapel to SohoBrit Pop was a marketing construct.

Elastica’s difficult 2nd album took them to France  Siouxsie and Budgie’s house for inspirational teaThere should be a Book – Book Events are Cool People always ask the question that isn't a question 

Miki wasn't part of any club's eliteWho’d want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member? Miki felt humiliated amongst the paraphernalia of professional drug takers Miki was not good with drugs – a weeping-jello-mess-in-crisis in the corner Lol backed off from it – a blessing in disguise.

Drugs took away a lot of personalities, all looking for a good time Peer Pressure - You’re either built for it or you’re not. The High was a Low on so many levels Blimey! - We could talk forever! Did Budgie inhale? 

____Respect: Nico – (1938 – 1988) ‘Chelsea Girl’____

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Miki as Unsettled global travellerMiki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family

What the industry wants, the public gets.

Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bandsFor the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating   

TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off the rails at 22 The Cure should have taken a break Delivering product can destroy a bandThe Brits love you then hate you, the USA loves you, then loves you again.

The Press Conspire!The Cure and Miki in LA for MTVBands had to fight for the right to be on a UK stage In the USA they were simply loved and welcomed.

Lollapalooza! 

Music in America professional and respectable.Butthole surfers wanted Banshees’ Butter in their trailer Banshees witness others on a traveling circus tour – Mad but Brilliant! Miki says the whole shebang was like a Bon Jovi tour.

Miki’s Admirable traits RevealedFestivals - a recipe for disaster  Miki felt weird - like endless days in an Amusement ParkNine weeks of touring - Connections went missing 

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Respect: Nina Simone – (1933 – 2003)

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Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show?Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match!Struck up many enlightening conversations!!The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars.

Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans!We were all young then! Emotional Babies!

Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be. Miki and Lol shared the same streets of London but never met.We walked everywhere - no phones - no way to contact Like a homing pigeon Budgie always found his way home Miki followed the tube stations - Roaming with Emma but no walkie-talkie in 5 years! 

Complex Band relationships suffer from outside pressure and from people with chisels. Lol empathises 100 % Miki’s experience with Emma - as his with Robert.  Will we all ever speak again? Is Morrissey bitter? Many memoirs end with courtroom drama. Malcom was a rotter says Lydon. Morrissey needs an editor says Lol! That’s a complement says Miki – it’s a proper Mills & Boon.  

Miki haunted by Mike Hedges’ old house in France. Lol recalls a depressing Disintegration. But Pool table respite with Simon and the funny cue ball.  Lol loved Miraval. The Slits loved being looked after at Ridge Farm Studios. Budgie met Viv again at a Berlin book festival - they had cake and tea and grown-up conversations. 

Miki is happy she had the band but happier in her new job - she’s had the best of both worlds. Lol wanted to be present for his son and so no touring thru’ his teens. We love writing as much as making music - Lol ran away at the destruction of the band. He came to America and America saved him.

____‘God Bless America’ – Irving Berlin. (1888 – 1989) ____

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