Writing fiction as a non-fiction writer can be a steep learning curve. Tim Grahl and I discuss this today as well as tips for launching your book. In the introduction, I mention BookFunnel's new giveaway feature, the Arthur C Clarke award opening up to indie authors. Plus, the launch of my new course, How to Write a Novel: From first draft to finished manuscript. The corporate sponsorship for this show pays for hosting and transcription. This podcast episode is sponsored by 99 Designs, where you can get all kinds of designs for your author business including book covers, merchandising, branding and business cards, illustrations and artwork and much more. You can get a Powerpack upgrade which gives your project more chance of getting noticed by going to: 99Designs.com/joanna Tim Grahl is the author of Your First 1000 Copies: A Step by Step Guide to marketing your book as well as the Book Launch Blueprint, and the founder of Out:think, a firm that helps authors make money with online marketing tools. He's also co-host of The Story Grid podcast with Shawn Coyne. You can listen above or on iTunes or Stitcher or watch the video here, read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and full transcript below. * The differences in Tim's life since he was last on the show. * The origins of The Story Grid podcast that Tim co-hosts with Shawn Coyne. * What Tim has found to be most challenging about writing fiction as a beginner. * Writing the book in sections and polishing each section with Shawn before moving on. * Short feedback loops for writers and getting advice from professionals rather than amateurs. * How new authors can ‘scale' the marketing strategies of big name authors. * Permission marketing and how that applies to authors. * On the new role of podcasting and Facebook in marketing books. * Following up on his viral blog post, Tim's current thoughts on the USA Today and NY Times book lists. * On whether Tim's marketing work for other authors focuses on short-term goals or career longevity. You can find Tim at www.TimGrahl.com and on twitter @timgrahl. Click here to get the Book Launch Blueprint for free. Transcript of Interview with Tim Grahl Joanna: Hi everyone. I'm Joanna Penn from thecreativepenn.com.