Dan talks to David Cannadine, renowned historian and trustee of the Royal Academy Development Trust among many other accolades. David Cannadine has recently written a book about Winston Churchill as an artist and the way he used art to deal with his 'black dog', but Dan gets him to talk about much more, including Gladstone, the use of history in policy-making and, of course, Brexit. For more exclusive history documentaries, and ad-free podcasts, subscribe to HistoryHit.TV.

Producer: Natt Tapley

Audio: Peter Curry

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