Dave Phillips and Bob Waltenspiel are two of the folks behind IT in the D, the networking group / podcast / now helping with job training in Michigan.

Our host Sven Gustafson sat down and talked with them about their newest project and how exactly they got there. 

The group, founded as DetroitNet.Org, has grown into it's various forms through doing something rather straightforward - helping connect people to jobs and making sure people have fun while they do it.

Along the way, the pair of tech professionals (one a sales guy, one a tech guy) authored a series of wildly popular posts called "Don't Be That Guy," appeared on WDIV's Flashpoint, been honored by CNN Money, and now have Detroit's largest tech podcast that records on a Monday night (although they are modest about it, they do get hundreds of thousands of listens every week).

Now they have a podcast network in Podcast Detroit (which, full disclosure, The Daily Detroit Happy Hour is a small part of), and they're working with the MEDC (Michigan Economic Development Corporation) to roll out technology job training first in Flint and then in areas around the state.

It's an interesting and entertaining interview with two Detroit change makers. Enjoy!