Sami and Alise are joined by author E. Jean Carroll to talk about her brand new book “What Do We Need Men For: A Modest Proposal.” They begin describing E. Jean's illustrious career as a journalist, advice columnist, and SNL writer. At 7:00 they dive into the question of what we actually need men for, and E. Jean explains why she thinks the narrative about Trump being cowardly and insecure is false. At 16:30 the author describes what she learned while traveling the country talking to women about men. At 23:30 they discuss the violent sexual encounter in which E. Jean says Trump forced himself on her in a department store dressing room. She explains why she has chosen not to categorize herself as a victim of rape, and talks about the enormous response this story has gotten but how quickly it faded away. Finally, they close out the show with a conversation about how men are so skilled at stealing women’s ideas, and discuss how we can all overcome the challenges of living in a world full of men. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices