Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen will face off against each other in the second round of the French presidential election on April 24. We have a good idea of what a second Macron presidency would look like, but Marine Le Pen is another story all together. How would her presidency affect Europe and the world? Jeremy Shapiro – seizing the reins of the podcast this week from a complaisant Mark Leonard – will explore this question with Agneska Bloch, a senior research assistant at a DC-based think tank, where she works on European affairs. This podcast was recorded on 14 April 2022. Further reading: All ECFR analysis on the French election: https://ecfr.eu/topic/france-2022/ Bookshelf: - East West Street by Philippe Sands - My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante