In Volume 20, Derek and Tommy sit down with Cale Sutherland, an Associate Lawyer practicing injury and health law at Lerner's LLP in the beautiful city of London, Ontario, Canada. Mr. Sutherland helps our co-hosts not only debunk some preconceived ideas they had about how much the law is like our favourite tv shoe, Suits. Cale also helps them debunk the notion that the courtroom and classroom are radically different. Anxiety, expectation management, the role of confidence, and the value of failure are all exceedingly central in both spaces.

At the heart of the chat today is a thought-provoking conversation about the role language and data play in all our daily lives, which takes the interviewers and interviewee into a challenging discussion about privacy, agency, and trust in response to the recent Ottawa Senators controversy. 

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