This episode’s guest Vicky Dowdall, has a management story like no other. A manager with limitless belief in what their artist can achieve no matter what’s going on, and someone who’s loyalty to her acts over the years has really paid off. Covering everything from the merits of indie campaigns lessons from the life of girlbands you really need this episode in your life. Vicky manages the brilliant Nina Nesbitt and Olivia Sebastianelli and writer Robbie Jay, not to mention consulting on the forthcoming Ella Henderson campaign. She understands the world and pressure of big pop, but ultimately loves it, and as you’ll hear, right gives a crap. Enjoy.

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