Amy Bell is our host today. As the Vatican formally repudiates the theories that were used to justify the seizure of Indigenous lands, we speak with a Métis person and lawyer, and the Regional Chief of the BC Assembly of First Nations, to hear about the harms caused by the doctrines, and what this repudiation six centuries later means to them. And in our second half, Jeopardy! champion Mattea Roach has another win under their belt - this time as the winner of Canada Reads 2023. They championed the graphic memoir Ducks by Kate Beaton. We spoke Roach to find out why.