During an appearance on 60 Minutes, President Joe Biden declared that the pandemic is over.But the pandemic isn't a thing of the past yet—something Biden should know well. His comments come as his administration asks Congress for an additional $22 billion to fight the pandemic. Some 400 to 500 Americans die each day from COVID-19. We discuss what the data tells us about this stage of the pandemic, and who gets to decide if the pandemic is over. Want to support 1A? Give to your local public radio station and subscribe to this podcast. Have questions? Find us on Twitter @1A.