Summary The promise of streaming data is that it allows you to react to new information as it happens, rather than introducing latency by batching records together. The peril is that building a robust and scalable streaming architecture is always more complicated and error-prone than you think it's going to be. After experiencing this unfortunate reality for themselves, Abhishek Chauhan and Ashish Kumar founded Grainite so that you don't have to suffer the same pain. In this episode they explain why streaming architectures are so challenging, how they have designed Grainite to be robust and scalable, and how you can start using it today to build your streaming data applications without all of the operational headache. Announcements Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management Businesses that adapt well to change grow 3 times faster than the industry average. As your business adapts, so should your data. RudderStack Transformations lets you customize your event data in real-time with your own JavaScript or Python code. Join The RudderStack Transformation Challenge today for a chance to win a $1,000 cash prize just by submitting a Transformation to the open-source RudderStack Transformation library. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudderstack (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudderstack) today to learn more Hey there podcast listener, are you tired of dealing with the headache that is the 'Modern Data Stack'? We feel your pain. It's supposed to make building smarter, faster, and more flexible data infrastructures a breeze. It ends up being anything but that. Setting it up, integrating it, maintaining it—it’s all kind of a nightmare. And let's not even get started on all the extra tools you have to buy to get it to do its thing. But don't worry, there is a better way. TimeXtender takes a holistic approach to data integration that focuses on agility rather than fragmentation. By bringing all the layers of the data stack together, TimeXtender helps you build data solutions up to 10 times faster and saves you 70-80% on costs. If you're fed up with the 'Modern Data Stack', give TimeXtender a try. Head over to dataengineeringpodcast.com/timextender (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/timextender) where you can do two things: watch us build a data estate in 15 minutes and start for free today. Join in with the event for the global data community, Data Council Austin. From March 28-30th 2023, they'll play host to hundreds of attendees, 100 top speakers, and dozens of startups that are advancing data science, engineering and AI. Data Council attendees are amazing founders, data scientists, lead engineers, CTOs, heads of data, investors and community organizers who are all working together to build the future of data. As a listener to the Data Engineering Podcast you can get a special discount of 20% off your ticket by using the promo code dataengpod20. Don't miss out on their only event this year! Visit: dataengineeringpodcast.com/data-council (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/data-council) today Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Ashish Kumar and Abhishek Chauhan about Grainite, a platform designed to give you a single place to build streaming data applications Interview Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Grainite is and the story behind it? What are the personas that you are focused on addressing with Grainite? What are some of the most complex aspects of building streaming data applications in the absence of something like Grainite? How does Grainite work to reduce that complexity? What are some of the commonalities that you see in the teams/organizations that find their way to Grainite? What are some of the higher-order projects that teams are able to build when they are using Grainite as a starting point vs. where they would be spending effort on a fully managed streaming architecture? Can you describe how Grainite is architected? How have the design and goals of the platform changed/evolved since you first started working on it? What does your internal build vs. buy process look like for identifying where to spend your engineering resources? What is the process for getting Grainite set up and integrated into an organizations technical environment? What is your process for determining which elements of the platform to expose as end-user features and customization options vs. keeping internal to the operational aspects of the product? Once Grainite is running, can you describe the day 0 workflow of building an application or data flow? What are the day 2 - N capabilities that Grainite offers for ongoing maintenance/operation/evolution of those applications? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Grainite used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Grainite? When is Grainite the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of Grainite? Contact Info Ashish LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishkumarprofile/) Abhishek LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhishekchauhan/) Parting Question From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today? Closing Announcements Thank you for listening! Don't forget to check out our other shows. Podcast.__init__ (https://www.pythonpodcast.com) covers the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. The Machine Learning Podcast (https://www.themachinelearningpodcast.com) helps you go from idea to production with machine learning. Visit the site (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com) to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes. If you've learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email hosts@dataengineeringpodcast.com (mailto:hosts@dataengineeringpodcast.com)) with your story. To help other people find the show please leave a review on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/data-engineering-podcast/id1193040557) and tell your friends and co-workers Links Grainite (https://www.grainite.com/) Blog about the challenges of streaming architectures (https://www.grainite.com/blog/there-was-an-old-lady-who-swallowed-a-fly) Getting Started Docs (https://gitbook.grainite.com/developers/getting-started) BigTable (https://research.google/pubs/pub27898/) Spanner (https://research.google/pubs/pub39966/) Firestore (https://cloud.google.com/firestore) OpenCensus (https://opencensus.io/) Citrix (https://www.citrix.com/) NetScaler (https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2022/10/03/netscaler-is-back/) J2EE (https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/appmodel.html) RocksDB (https://rocksdb.org/) Pulsar (https://pulsar.apache.org/) SQL Server (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SQL_Server) MySQL (https://www.mysql.com/) RAFT Protocol (https://raft.github.io/) The intro and outro music is from The Hug (http://freemusicarchive.org/music/The_Freak_Fandango_Orchestra/Love_death_and_a_drunken_monkey/04_-_The_Hug) by The Freak Fandango Orchestra (http://freemusicarchive.org/music/The_Freak_Fandango_Orchestra/) / CC BY-SA (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/)

Summary

The promise of streaming data is that it allows you to react to new information as it happens, rather than introducing latency by batching records together. The peril is that building a robust and scalable streaming architecture is always more complicated and error-prone than you think it's going to be. After experiencing this unfortunate reality for themselves, Abhishek Chauhan and Ashish Kumar founded Grainite so that you don't have to suffer the same pain. In this episode they explain why streaming architectures are so challenging, how they have designed Grainite to be robust and scalable, and how you can start using it today to build your streaming data applications without all of the operational headache.

Announcements

• Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management
• Businesses that adapt well to change grow 3 times faster than the industry average. As your business adapts, so should your data. RudderStack Transformations lets you customize your event data in real-time with your own JavaScript or Python code. Join The RudderStack Transformation Challenge today for a chance to win a $1,000 cash prize just by submitting a Transformation to the open-source RudderStack Transformation library. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudderstack today to learn more
• Hey there podcast listener, are you tired of dealing with the headache that is the 'Modern Data Stack'? We feel your pain. It's supposed to make building smarter, faster, and more flexible data infrastructures a breeze. It ends up being anything but that. Setting it up, integrating it, maintaining it—it’s all kind of a nightmare. And let's not even get started on all the extra tools you have to buy to get it to do its thing. But don't worry, there is a better way. TimeXtender takes a holistic approach to data integration that focuses on agility rather than fragmentation. By bringing all the layers of the data stack together, TimeXtender helps you build data solutions up to 10 times faster and saves you 70-80% on costs. If you're fed up with the 'Modern Data Stack', give TimeXtender a try. Head over to dataengineeringpodcast.com/timextender where you can do two things: watch us build a data estate in 15 minutes and start for free today.
• Join in with the event for the global data community, Data Council Austin. From March 28-30th 2023, they'll play host to hundreds of attendees, 100 top speakers, and dozens of startups that are advancing data science, engineering and AI. Data Council attendees are amazing founders, data scientists, lead engineers, CTOs, heads of data, investors and community organizers who are all working together to build the future of data. As a listener to the Data Engineering Podcast you can get a special discount of 20% off your ticket by using the promo code dataengpod20. Don't miss out on their only event this year! Visit: dataengineeringpodcast.com/data-council today
• Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Ashish Kumar and Abhishek Chauhan about Grainite, a platform designed to give you a single place to build streaming data applications

Interview

• Introduction
• How did you get involved in the area of data management?
• Can you describe what Grainite is and the story behind it?
• What are the personas that you are focused on addressing with Grainite?

• What are some of the most complex aspects of building streaming data applications in the absence of something like Grainite?

  • How does Grainite work to reduce that complexity?

• What are some of the commonalities that you see in the teams/organizations that find their way to Grainite?

• What are some of the higher-order projects that teams are able to build when they are using Grainite as a starting point vs. where they would be spending effort on a fully managed streaming architecture?

• Can you describe how Grainite is architected?

  • How have the design and goals of the platform changed/evolved since you first started working on it?

• What does your internal build vs. buy process look like for identifying where to spend your engineering resources?

• What is the process for getting Grainite set up and integrated into an organizations technical environment?

  • What is your process for determining which elements of the platform to expose as end-user features and customization options vs. keeping internal to the operational aspects of the product?

• Once Grainite is running, can you describe the day 0 workflow of building an application or data flow?

  • What are the day 2 - N capabilities that Grainite offers for ongoing maintenance/operation/evolution of those applications?

• What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Grainite used?

• What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Grainite?

• When is Grainite the wrong choice?

• What do you have planned for the future of Grainite?

Contact Info

• Ashish
  • LinkedIn
• Abhishek
  • LinkedIn

Parting Question

• From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

• Thank you for listening! Don't forget to check out our other shows. Podcast.__init__ covers the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. The Machine Learning Podcast helps you go from idea to production with machine learning.
• Visit the site to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes.
• If you've learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email hosts@dataengineeringpodcast.com) with your story.
• To help other people find the show please leave a review on Apple Podcasts and tell your friends and co-workers

Links

• Grainite
  • Blog about the challenges of streaming architectures
  • Getting Started Docs
• BigTable
• Spanner
• Firestore
• OpenCensus
• Citrix
• NetScaler
• J2EE
• RocksDB
• Pulsar
• SQL Server
• MySQL
• RAFT Protocol

The intro and outro music is from The Hug by The Freak Fandango Orchestra / CC BY-SA

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