Mike Rose is a research professor in the UCLA Graduate School of Education and Information Studies. He’s the author of several books, including “The Mind at Work: Valuing the Intelligence of the American Worker,” “Why School?: Reclaiming Education for All of Us,” and more recently “Back to School: Why Everyone Deserves a Second Chance at Education.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Mike Rose — The Intelligence in All Kinds of Work, and the Human Core of All Education That Matters.” Find more at onbeing.org.