Robert and Joel are joined by Patreons and FSD beta users Michael Pastrone and Matt F Anthes-Washburn  - For this discussion of the current state of FSD beta and their hopes for improvements.  Matt lives near Beaverton Oregon and when he is not putting FSD Beta through its paces he’s hiking and surfing or pulling a camper with his  Performance Model 3.Michael lives in a sleepy bedroom community outside of Boston where he finds time to test FSD the areas cold and snowy weather. Michael has been on record saying he would let FSD drive his kids to school in his Long Range Model S.