Last month we heard from Denise Burgess, who's eldest son has struggled with mental health and substance use disorders for years, and her ongoing efforts to get him simultaneous help for both. And we heard from Pam Cooley. Her son, Eli, died of fentanyl poisoning in January of 2020 in British Columbia. The two mothers were connected by an addictions doctor Denise's son had been treated by.

Something both Denise and Pam spoke about was stigma around mental health, substance use and homelessness. And about the impact that has had on their efforts to help their sons.

Today, we will dig into that stigma a bit, and what solutions their might be to changing it. Davy Rose is the outreach coordinator with the Truro Housing Outreach Society. Here is part of their conversation with Alex Guye.