We can again send men and women into outer space but we still can't figure out how to bring black men and women, veterans, and disabled people into our workforce? How can we do better?  What will it take to embrace inclusion and equity? Our guest, the one-and-only Torin Ellis, sums it up in three words: table our fragility. That's just one of the many inspiring, heartfelt, passionate pleas you'll hear during this unfiltered conversation with one of the most influential D and I leaders today. In what is sure to be an all-time Geeks Geezers Googlization favorite, we talked with Torin about why we must do better, why change isn't about our intent but our impact, how 2020 can be different if we take action, why we must give ourselves permission to make mistakes and then do better. Why we must do better because equity, social justice, and humanity are hanging by a thread.