Sometimes it takes some time to get where you want to go. Just ask Torey Lovullo and Kevin Gausman. The Diamondbacks' manager and Blue Jays pitcher each join Bradfo to explain their journeys to finding the kind of excellence all teams and players aspire to. For Lovullo, it was getting his Arizona club to believe they were one of the best teams in baseball, even after making it to the World Series. Sure enough ... And for Gausman, it was about making the needed adjustments to find his full potential. Sure enough ... They are stories of hope and really, really good advice. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices