In a podcast first and almost certain last, Owen Slot welcomes, Ben Ryan, Fiji Seven's gold medal winning coach, Sam Peters from The Sunday Times, and his 6 month old daughter Ella. Ben reflects on winning Olympic gold and the players who progressed to have an impact in the main game. He also reveals how close the Pacific Islands came to having a Super Rugby franchise, a vital component, he believes in advancing Fijian rugby. The panel also consider rugby trailing in terms of sports science, whether a recall of Fiji's best would make them a world cup winning side, and why some players are making a loss playing for their country. There's debate on England ahead of the winter internationals.

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