In episode 383 of Things We Said Today, Ken Michaels, Allan Kozinn and Darren Devivo have a chat with Gary Burr, a songwriter and multi-instrumentalist who, besides having written hits for Juice Newton, Lady Antebellum, Garth Brooks and many others, collaborated with Ringo Starr on about three dozen songs over the past 20 years, and played guitar and bass as part of his recording (and occasional concert) band, the Roundheads.

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