We’re joined this week by celebrated technologist and co-founder of Wired Magazine, Kevin Kelly. Kevin shares how he went from a back-to-the-lander hippie in his early youth, to becoming one of the most important technological thinkers alive today. We then explore one of the central ideas of Kelly’s technological philosophy, what he calls the technium. He shares how the technium can be dated all the way back to the beginning of the universe, and explains how the technium—a type of super-organism of interdependent technologies—can actually increase degrees of freedom and choice in the universe. Closing up the conversation we discuss whether the technium is a neutral force, or if it has some inherent goodness. This is part 1 of a two-part series. Listen to part 2, The Wise Use of Technology. Episode Links: www.KK.org What Technology Wants ( http://amzn.to/9l5NqS ) Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, & the Economic World ( http://amzn.to/csaSS0 ) Wired Magazine ( http://www.wired.com ) Ted Nelson ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson ) The Technium ( http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/ ) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.