Sign up for Intelligence Squared Premium here: https://iq2premium.supercast.com/ for ad-free listening, bonus content, early access and much more. See below for details. For many in the West, defending Taiwan means standing up for democracy and freedom, and not bending to China’s power. Others, however, fear that going to war against China would be a futile mission that would disrupt the world order. Amid all these discussions of Western liberal ideals and strategic military concerns, shouldn't we take into consideration the hopes that Taiwanese citizens have for the future of their nation? To explore these issues our host Rana Mitter, Professor of the History and Politics of Modern China at the University of Oxford, is joined by three guests: Benedict Rogers, human-rights activist, journalist, and co-founder of Hong Kong Watch; Lieutenant Colonel Daniel L Davies, Senior Fellow for Defense Priorities and a former lieutenant colonel in the US army; and Brian Hioe, Editor of New Bloom Magazine and blogger for The Diplomat. … We are incredibly grateful for your support. To become an Intelligence Squared Premium subscriber, follow the link: https://iq2premium.supercast.com/  Here’s a reminder of the benefits you’ll receive as a subscriber: Ad-free listening, because we know some of you would prefer to listen without interruption  One early episode per week Two bonus episodes per month A 25% discount on IQ2+, our exciting streaming service, where you can watch and take part in events live at home and enjoy watching past events on demand and without ads  A 15% discount and priority access to live, in-person events in London, so you won’t miss out on tickets Our premium monthly newsletter  Intelligence Squared Merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices