This week, Republican Representatives Tom Emmer and Patrick McHenry sent a letter pressing SEC Chair Gary Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops. With billions of dollars worth of tokens airdropped this year alone, projects need clarity more than ever.  In this episode, Amanda Tuminelli, Chief Legal Officer of the DeFi Education Fund, dissects the SEC’s stance on airdrops, why her organization believes the SEC has stretched the legal definition of “compensation” too far, and what Congress might ask Gensler in his upcoming hearing. Plus, she talks about how the SEC “regrets” any confusion it caused for using the term “crypto assets securities,” since the agency now admits that tokens themselves are not securities.   Show highlights: Why Amanda believes the SEC’s position on airdrops doesn’t make sense Why the DeFi Education Fund sued the SEC over the BEBA airdrop  How the SEC’s position on airdrops has been clear for a while, but is “wrong” according to Amanda Her take on users bypassing the geographic restrictions to claim airdrops in the U.S. How and why the SEC has changed its language around “crypto assets securities” How the SEC’s new position on crypto assets implicating securities laws seems to rest on the “embodiment” theory Why Amanda believes the Supreme Court or Congress may be needed to step in What Amanda expects Congress to question Gary Gensler about in the hearing next week Amanda’s takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing last week How she expects the presidential election will impact the regulatory landscape in the U.S. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Coinbase iTrustCapital Polkadot Mantle Stellar Guest Amanda Tuminelli, Chief legal officer of the DeFi Education Fund Previous appearances on Unchained:  Gary Gensler’s Case Against Uniswap: Does the SEC Even Stand a Chance? Is This the End of DeFi? Why the US Government Is Going After Tornado Cash Links Airdrops: Blockworks: Republican Reps. ask Gensler for clarity on how securities laws apply to airdrops -  Gabriel Shapiro’s tweet: “We may *disagree* that the position is correct but it's not unclear.” CoinDesk: Crypto Airdrops Ban U.S. Users, but Americans Are Claiming Tokens Anyway SEC’s amended complaint in the Binance case BEBA case DeFi Education Fund suing the SEC  First Congressional Hearing on DeFi Unchained: First Congressional Hearing on DeFi Highlights Divide Between Republicans and Democrats Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:42 SEC’s stance on airdrops 04:25 DeFi Education Fund’s lawsuit over BEBA 06:47 Amanda: SEC’s position on airdrops is “wrong” 08:27 Users bypassing geographic restrictions for airdrops 12:47 Why the SEC suddenly apologized for using the term “crypto asset securities” for years 16:47 Amanda’s take on what the SEC’s new theory is for why tokens fall under securities laws 17:43 Why Supreme Court or Congressional involvement is likely needed 19:01 What Congress might ask Gensler in a hearing next week 19:59 Key takeaways from the first Congressional DeFi hearing 20:43 Amanda’s take on how the presidential election might impact crypto  23:45 News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices