Hello people of the When It Was Cool Network.  You may know me as the host of The Plot Podcast here on the network, but I've been publishing Odessa Steps Magazine since 2000 and doing the Winter Palace Podcast since 2005. Since our new episode fits nicely into Hallowe'en Month, I asked Karl if he'd like to post it here, since it fits what's going on in October and it would be a good taster for people to check out our other podcast.  He said "sure" so here is a portion of that episode. I'm joined by AP reporter Ashraf Khalil to talk about the Sandman TV show.  We both read Sandman in college when it was coming out in the early 1990s, so we'll talk about that, its early connection to the DC Universe, the creation of Vertigo and the walling off of the DCU, our favorite issues, the comic finally coming to the screen, casting choices, the use of animation, future seasons and more.