In the International Court of Justice, South Africa is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza.

Amanda Taub, a human rights lawyer-turned-journalist at The Times, walks through the arguments of the case, and the power that the rules of war have beyond any verdict in court.

Guest: Amanda Taub, writer of The Interpreter for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• south-africa-genocide-icj.html">What might happen next in the genocide case against Israel.
• With its accusations against Israel, South Africa isicj-genocide-south-africa.html"> challenging the Western-led order.

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