Literature professor and cineaste Jiwei Xiao, who grew up in Wuhan and whose mother still lives there, published a piece in the New York Review of Books about watching the coronavirus pandemic unfold — first at a distance in Wuhan, then up close in the U.S., where she now resides. In this episode, Jiwei joins Kaiser and Jeremy to discuss her experiences.  11:56: China’s initial response to the outbreak 16:18: Fang Fang’s comments on China’s response to COVID-19 25:09: Emerging literature on the pandemic 35:10: Occupying a space between nations and cultures Recommendations: Jiwei: A work of “China noir”: The Wild Goose Lake, by Diao Yinan.  Jeremy: Keep Cool, by Zhang Yimou. Kaiser: A long-form piece in the New York Times Magazine, I’m an E.R. doctor in New York. None of us will ever be the same, by Helen Ouyang.  This podcast was edited and produced by Kaiser Kuo and Jason MacRonald. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.