Brian is out for the episode, so Jonathan takes over as host and runs a two person show with Brad. The two share their thoughts on the Panthers loss to the Saints in New Orleans. Topics of discussion include optimistic/pessimistic reviews from both sides of the ball, a Shula/Rivera review, and general takeaways from the game. They also preview Carolina's upcoming match-up with Minnesota Vikings. They talk about what scares them most about this Vikings team, what the Panthers need to do to win, and final score predictions. There's also a discussion about ESPN's old "Jacked Up" segment and how poorly it's aged.  (Outro song credit: Trigger by Deaf Havana) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices